1 00:00:08,914 --> 00:00:10,080 UYANGA TSEDEV: So hi, girls. 2 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:11,420 My name is Uyanga. 3 00:00:11,420 --> 00:00:13,820 And I am currently at the MIT Koch 4 00:00:13,820 --> 00:00:17,154 Institute, which is a building just for cancer research. 5 00:00:17,154 --> 00:00:18,570 And today, I'm going to talk about 6 00:00:18,570 --> 00:00:22,010 the biological engineering that we do in order to find 7 00:00:22,010 --> 00:00:26,910 and image deeply embedded and difficult-to-reach tumors. 8 00:00:26,910 --> 00:00:29,990 So currently in the clinic, the number one therapy method 9 00:00:29,990 --> 00:00:36,840 for cancer is-- thank you-- for cancer 10 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:41,390 is surgical debulking, which is basically removing of the tumor 11 00:00:41,390 --> 00:00:43,480 masses, and then chemotherapy. 12 00:00:43,480 --> 00:00:46,240 And so it's very important for surgeons 13 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,390 to be able to locate precisely and early 14 00:00:49,390 --> 00:00:51,920 on in the stage of the tumor the masses that they 15 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:57,030 want to remove in order to do the most effective therapy. 16 00:00:57,030 --> 00:01:00,310 And so cancer cells are basically 17 00:01:00,310 --> 00:01:03,040 cells that have unusual dividing abilities. 18 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,430 So they proliferate without stop. 19 00:01:05,430 --> 00:01:10,090 And they are differentiated from the regular cells around them 20 00:01:10,090 --> 00:01:13,770 by certain markers on the surface of the cell. 21 00:01:13,770 --> 00:01:16,610 And so what we want to do is use these markers on the surface 22 00:01:16,610 --> 00:01:22,340 in the cell in order to find and then locate where 23 00:01:22,340 --> 00:01:23,964 the tumors are, and tell the surgeons, 24 00:01:23,964 --> 00:01:25,380 this is the place where you should 25 00:01:25,380 --> 00:01:27,310 remove the biological tissue. 26 00:01:27,310 --> 00:01:29,730 And you don't want to damage the healthy tissue around it. 27 00:01:29,730 --> 00:01:31,021 So you want to be very precise. 28 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,600 So there are two tools that we use in our lab 29 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:45,200 in order to find the tumors in the body. 30 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,120 The first is the custom-built imager 31 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,710 that we're working on with collaboration at the Lincoln 32 00:01:51,710 --> 00:01:54,850 Labs, and the second is the biological probe. 33 00:01:54,850 --> 00:01:56,750 It's a little shuttle that we use in order 34 00:01:56,750 --> 00:02:00,714 to go ahead and find the cells in the body. 35 00:02:00,714 --> 00:02:02,380 So we can talk about both of them today. 36 00:02:05,210 --> 00:02:06,950 So the biological marker that we use 37 00:02:06,950 --> 00:02:09,090 is called the M13 bacteriophage. 38 00:02:09,090 --> 00:02:12,300 And bacteriophage really just means bacteria eater. 39 00:02:12,300 --> 00:02:13,620 So it's a virus. 40 00:02:13,620 --> 00:02:20,790 So as with typical viruses, it infects bacteria, [INAUDIBLE] 41 00:02:20,790 --> 00:02:24,240 takes over the local mechanism of the bacteria, 42 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,200 and begins to replicate itself. 43 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,680 So what we can do is hack this system 44 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,410 in order to use this molecule for our own benefits. 45 00:02:32,410 --> 00:02:36,050 It's a very beautiful, very simple sort of molecule. 46 00:02:36,050 --> 00:02:38,250 It's just a piece of DNA-- so a DNA 47 00:02:38,250 --> 00:02:40,300 that codes for its genetic information-- 48 00:02:40,300 --> 00:02:43,870 and a bunch of proteins that's wrapped around the body. 49 00:02:43,870 --> 00:02:45,930 And so because we can manipulate the DNA, 50 00:02:45,930 --> 00:02:49,770 we can change the peptides that are on the body of the phage. 51 00:02:49,770 --> 00:02:51,890 And so we can change the protein so that they 52 00:02:51,890 --> 00:02:55,780 have specific binding abilities to certain materials 53 00:02:55,780 --> 00:02:58,040 or certain ligands, or certain markers. 54 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,750 So this is the tumor cell markers that I'm talking about. 55 00:03:01,750 --> 00:03:05,940 We can change the protein at the head of the virus 56 00:03:05,940 --> 00:03:10,290 in order to bind specifically to the surface of a cancer cell. 57 00:03:10,290 --> 00:03:12,580 And we can change the proteins on the body 58 00:03:12,580 --> 00:03:15,680 of the virus to bind to a specific imaging agent 59 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,900 or therapy agent that we can then shuttle 60 00:03:17,900 --> 00:03:19,611 to the surface of our cells. 61 00:03:24,330 --> 00:03:28,500 So for our system here, the imaging agent that we chose 62 00:03:28,500 --> 00:03:30,570 is called a carbon nanotube. 63 00:03:30,570 --> 00:03:34,900 And so a carbon nanotube is just a piece of graphene 64 00:03:34,900 --> 00:03:36,940 that's been rolled up. 65 00:03:36,940 --> 00:03:39,960 And what graphene is is it's just 66 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:41,140 a single layer of graphite. 67 00:03:41,140 --> 00:03:44,370 And graphite is what you find in your pencils, in lead. 68 00:03:44,370 --> 00:03:47,090 And so it has very interesting optical and electrical 69 00:03:47,090 --> 00:03:48,860 properties, and it's very well-studied. 70 00:03:48,860 --> 00:03:50,370 But for us, what's interesting about 71 00:03:50,370 --> 00:03:53,460 it is the wavelength at which it emits light. 72 00:03:53,460 --> 00:03:57,440 This is in the second window near infrared wavelength. 73 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,320 And so it's slightly longer than the visible wavelength. 74 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:05,670 And the cool thing about this is it's able to penetrate deeper 75 00:04:05,670 --> 00:04:06,927 into the biological tissue. 76 00:04:06,927 --> 00:04:09,010 And you have less scattering and less interference 77 00:04:09,010 --> 00:04:10,301 from the surrounding materials. 78 00:04:15,510 --> 00:04:20,220 So finally, this is the design of our shuttles 79 00:04:20,220 --> 00:04:22,920 that we send in to find tumor cells. 80 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,710 We have the M13 bacteriophage, which 81 00:04:25,710 --> 00:04:28,640 has a particular protein at the head that 82 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,160 detects the tumor cells. 83 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:34,870 And we have on the body the CNT, the carbon nanotube, 84 00:04:34,870 --> 00:04:36,570 that is going to light up and tell us 85 00:04:36,570 --> 00:04:38,778 this is where we should go ahead and remove the mass. 86 00:04:42,637 --> 00:04:44,970 So the first model that we have actually done in our lab 87 00:04:44,970 --> 00:04:46,080 is on ovarian tumor. 88 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,930 And ovarian tumor is one of the tumor [INAUDIBLE] 89 00:04:48,930 --> 00:04:52,900 that is very difficult to detect early on. 90 00:04:52,900 --> 00:04:55,040 Unlike things like breast tumor, you can't feel it. 91 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,930 And usually when the surgeon or the doctor diagnoses, 92 00:04:57,930 --> 00:05:00,110 it's quite late in the stage of the tumor. 93 00:05:00,110 --> 00:05:01,920 So it could have turned metastatic. 94 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,614 And metastatic means that the tumor cells 95 00:05:04,614 --> 00:05:06,280 have detached from the body and traveled 96 00:05:06,280 --> 00:05:09,807 to other parts of the body, and so proliferated other tumors 97 00:05:09,807 --> 00:05:10,640 throughout the body. 98 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,950 So this is a stage you don't want to reach. 99 00:05:13,950 --> 00:05:18,900 So it'd be very cool if you can put our probes into mice 100 00:05:18,900 --> 00:05:21,850 with a ovarian tumor, light up the tumors, 101 00:05:21,850 --> 00:05:24,000 give the surgeon the image, and the surgeon can 102 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,870 go ahead and remove the tumors, and the mice will then survive. 103 00:05:26,870 --> 00:05:29,714 So this is a first step in putting our system 104 00:05:29,714 --> 00:05:30,880 to its clinical application. 105 00:05:33,750 --> 00:05:36,180 So this is what happens in real life. 106 00:05:36,180 --> 00:05:39,990 You see here the stomach cavity of the mice. 107 00:05:39,990 --> 00:05:43,470 And in the bright orange, you see all the tumor masses 108 00:05:43,470 --> 00:05:44,550 that have lit up. 109 00:05:44,550 --> 00:05:47,130 So we have injected the mice with trillions 110 00:05:47,130 --> 00:05:49,010 of our tiny little molecular shuttles 111 00:05:49,010 --> 00:05:52,480 that carry our CNT to the location of the tumor. 112 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:57,980 And using our imager, which we have built with help 113 00:05:57,980 --> 00:06:00,270 from the Lincoln Labs, the surgeon 114 00:06:00,270 --> 00:06:02,440 is able to go in and remove all these nodules. 115 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,980 And the cool thing about the nodules 116 00:06:04,980 --> 00:06:07,030 here is we're getting the ones that are even 117 00:06:07,030 --> 00:06:08,680 below a millimeter in diameter. 118 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,720 So usually, when a surgeon goes in without any guidance, 119 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,000 he might miss these because he's just going by eye. 120 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,700 But because he has the imager, he 121 00:06:15,700 --> 00:06:17,741 can go ahead and remove most of the tumors. 122 00:06:21,850 --> 00:06:24,440 So here's an example of what we're doing in real time. 123 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,680 So during surgery, if the surgeon can directly 124 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,600 refer to the images that he's getting, 125 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,400 then he can go ahead and implement our technology 126 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,040 in a very real way. 127 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,425 So here, we see Dr. [INAUDIBLE] from MGH. 128 00:06:39,425 --> 00:06:41,280 He's doing surgery on mice. 129 00:06:41,280 --> 00:06:45,107 And you can see on the screen, he can see brightly lit up-- 130 00:06:45,107 --> 00:06:46,690 this is where the tumors are, and this 131 00:06:46,690 --> 00:06:47,830 is where I should take it out. 132 00:06:47,830 --> 00:06:49,980 And so here's a serial image of what's happening. 133 00:06:49,980 --> 00:06:54,710 So here's the probes lighting up where the tumors are. 134 00:06:54,710 --> 00:06:57,550 This is what happens when the surgeon goes in by eye 135 00:06:57,550 --> 00:06:59,550 and is like, OK, from my experience, 136 00:06:59,550 --> 00:07:01,410 this is where I should take out the tumors. 137 00:07:01,410 --> 00:07:04,050 And you see that there's quite a bit of mass left. 138 00:07:04,050 --> 00:07:06,520 But if we have the imager, then we 139 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,730 have a much cleaner image at the end of the surgery. 140 00:07:08,730 --> 00:07:10,626 And so there's a lot less of a chance 141 00:07:10,626 --> 00:07:12,000 that the tumor is going to recur. 142 00:07:16,539 --> 00:07:19,080 So for me personally, there are two things I'm doing in order 143 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,620 to expand on our system that we have already built. 144 00:07:22,620 --> 00:07:26,650 The first is manipulating the M13 phage 145 00:07:26,650 --> 00:07:28,390 to different geometries. 146 00:07:28,390 --> 00:07:29,590 So I call this inhophage. 147 00:07:29,590 --> 00:07:33,860 Inho just means small in Portuguese. 148 00:07:33,860 --> 00:07:36,760 And so based on the aspect ratio, which basically 149 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,630 is the diameter versus the length of our phage, 150 00:07:39,630 --> 00:07:42,410 they might have very different traveling abilities 151 00:07:42,410 --> 00:07:43,450 in the bloodstream. 152 00:07:43,450 --> 00:07:44,980 So because of their oblong shape, 153 00:07:44,980 --> 00:07:48,760 they have a tendency to stick to the walls and tumble around. 154 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,781 But if we can change this shape to an optimal size, 155 00:07:51,781 --> 00:07:53,280 then there's a chance that they will 156 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,070 travel for a longer period of time in the bloodstream, 157 00:07:56,070 --> 00:07:58,060 and so find the tumors that are farther 158 00:07:58,060 --> 00:08:00,950 from the site of injection. 159 00:08:00,950 --> 00:08:03,690 The second thing is we are expanding on the library 160 00:08:03,690 --> 00:08:07,080 of cancers that we can attack. 161 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,420 So so far, we have looked at ovarian tumor, 162 00:08:09,420 --> 00:08:11,664 and now we want to look at brain tumor. 163 00:08:11,664 --> 00:08:13,580 And the most difficult thing about brain tumor 164 00:08:13,580 --> 00:08:15,290 is the blood-brain barrier. 165 00:08:15,290 --> 00:08:17,700 So it's just a layer of cells that separate your blood 166 00:08:17,700 --> 00:08:20,020 from the matter in your brain. 167 00:08:20,020 --> 00:08:21,610 And the molecules that pass through 168 00:08:21,610 --> 00:08:23,480 are very specific and very small. 169 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,980 So it's very hard to deliver from your bloodstream 170 00:08:26,980 --> 00:08:32,250 various drugs or imaging agents to the actual brain mass. 171 00:08:32,250 --> 00:08:35,299 So what we have done here is actually 172 00:08:35,299 --> 00:08:37,700 engineer the head peptides-- so the proteins 173 00:08:37,700 --> 00:08:42,440 at the head of our phage-- so that it allows for travel 174 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:46,630 across the blood-brain barrier so it can deliver these imaging 175 00:08:46,630 --> 00:08:48,810 molecules to tumors in the brain. 176 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:56,700 So one thing to remember here is that the scale at which we're 177 00:08:56,700 --> 00:08:58,680 working is very, very small. 178 00:08:58,680 --> 00:09:01,650 So if you look at CNT or our phage, 179 00:09:01,650 --> 00:09:05,986 really, it's about 100,000 times smaller 180 00:09:05,986 --> 00:09:07,110 than a strand of your hair. 181 00:09:07,110 --> 00:09:10,110 So these are really, really tiny things. 182 00:09:10,110 --> 00:09:13,040 So when I make these small phage, 183 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,010 they're even smaller than our regular phage. 184 00:09:15,010 --> 00:09:18,500 Our regular phage is about 800 nanometers. 185 00:09:18,500 --> 00:09:22,530 So here's an example of 280 nanometer phage, 100 nanometer 186 00:09:22,530 --> 00:09:24,782 phage, and 50 nanometer phage. 187 00:09:24,782 --> 00:09:26,740 So when I make them and I want to look at them, 188 00:09:26,740 --> 00:09:28,580 it's really hard because they're so small. 189 00:09:28,580 --> 00:09:31,440 And you can't just use regular light microscopy 190 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,090 to detect them. 191 00:09:33,090 --> 00:09:34,740 So another interesting thing that I do 192 00:09:34,740 --> 00:09:37,152 is use atomic force microscopy. 193 00:09:37,152 --> 00:09:38,610 I don't know if you've heard of it. 194 00:09:38,610 --> 00:09:42,330 But what it is is basically you take a sample, 195 00:09:42,330 --> 00:09:44,360 and you have this very, very tiny needle 196 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,780 that scans across the surface. 197 00:09:46,780 --> 00:09:49,450 And so you're getting a topology of the surface. 198 00:09:49,450 --> 00:09:52,460 And from that scanning, kind of like reading Braille, 199 00:09:52,460 --> 00:09:55,640 you get a good idea of what the profile of your image is. 200 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,101 So these are the images that I get from this sort of needle 201 00:09:58,101 --> 00:09:58,600 probing. 202 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,740 For the brain tumor, another interesting factor-- 203 00:10:06,740 --> 00:10:10,620 not only can we bring the phage to the surface 204 00:10:10,620 --> 00:10:13,592 of the tumor-- so this is tumor here shown in green. 205 00:10:13,592 --> 00:10:16,050 This is tumor that actually has green fluorescent proteins, 206 00:10:16,050 --> 00:10:18,600 so that means they glow. 207 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,170 And if we send in our phage, we see that, oh, 208 00:10:21,170 --> 00:10:26,430 yeah, our phage goes ahead and coats in red the tumor. 209 00:10:26,430 --> 00:10:27,980 But then the other thing we notice 210 00:10:27,980 --> 00:10:31,381 is that the phage is actually internalized into the tumor 211 00:10:31,381 --> 00:10:31,880 cells. 212 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,050 So the phage comes and attaches to the surface, 213 00:10:35,050 --> 00:10:37,400 and then the tumor cells eats the phage. 214 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:41,840 So in the blue here is the nucleus of a phage. 215 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,700 And in the red spread around the nucleus in the Golgi region 216 00:10:45,700 --> 00:10:46,970 is our phage. 217 00:10:46,970 --> 00:10:50,480 So it just tells us we can possibly deliver things to 218 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,150 inside the cells of the cancer. 219 00:10:53,150 --> 00:10:55,260 So that means we could send in therapies 220 00:10:55,260 --> 00:10:58,360 that disrupt the function, and so in this way, 221 00:10:58,360 --> 00:10:59,830 kill the tumor cells. 222 00:10:59,830 --> 00:11:02,220 And so can we not only detect where they are 223 00:11:02,220 --> 00:11:04,060 and see if it can remove them effectively, 224 00:11:04,060 --> 00:11:07,100 but we can also locally cure them. 225 00:11:11,110 --> 00:11:17,340 So overall, today, we've looked at the very real medical impact 226 00:11:17,340 --> 00:11:20,050 that we can do with imaging and the probe 227 00:11:20,050 --> 00:11:22,080 that we have biologically engineered in our lab. 228 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,440 And the two things that I've done 229 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:27,844 is look at what we can do to change the geometry, 230 00:11:27,844 --> 00:11:30,260 and what we can do to change the different cancers that we 231 00:11:30,260 --> 00:11:30,810 can attack. 232 00:11:34,742 --> 00:11:36,200 And all of this work, of course, is 233 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,930 impossible without the collaboration that 234 00:11:38,930 --> 00:11:43,190 happens between the colleagues I have at the MIT Koch Institute, 235 00:11:43,190 --> 00:11:46,142 as well as the scientists we have at the Lincoln Labs. 236 00:11:46,142 --> 00:11:48,600 And so that's another really cool thing about this project. 237 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,840 It's so very broad, and so it brings 238 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:52,590 in so many different techniques and brings 239 00:11:52,590 --> 00:11:53,770 in so many different people. 240 00:11:53,770 --> 00:11:55,750 And so I really want to thank them. 241 00:11:55,750 --> 00:12:00,320 And another aspect of this work that I really find meaningful 242 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:04,000 is that I am personally funded by families 243 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,180 that are affected by these types of tumors, 244 00:12:06,180 --> 00:12:07,250 these types of diseases. 245 00:12:07,250 --> 00:12:12,140 And so I really want to thank the Goodwin, [INAUDIBLE], 246 00:12:12,140 --> 00:12:15,830 [INAUDIBLE] and [INAUDIBLE] families who have been really 247 00:12:15,830 --> 00:12:17,940 generous with their funding for this project. 248 00:12:21,370 --> 00:12:24,959 And finally, I want to say that for me, the M13 is 249 00:12:24,959 --> 00:12:26,000 kind of a building block. 250 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,330 We're here all as Girls Who Build. 251 00:12:28,330 --> 00:12:32,190 And so for me, for my building project, it's the M13. 252 00:12:32,190 --> 00:12:36,970 And I hope that you guys are able to understand from this 253 00:12:36,970 --> 00:12:39,110 that as an engineer, for me, it's really just 254 00:12:39,110 --> 00:12:43,670 about finding creative ways to use my building blocks to make 255 00:12:43,670 --> 00:12:46,270 a difference, to address the problems that I think 256 00:12:46,270 --> 00:12:49,150 are most important to me. 257 00:12:49,150 --> 00:12:52,580 And so thank you very much for listening. 258 00:12:52,580 --> 00:12:55,780 Please feel free to ask me any questions. 259 00:12:55,780 --> 00:12:59,480 I can talk more about myself, or I can talk more about research. 260 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,760 But yes, thank you. 261 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,260 [APPLAUSE] 262 00:13:08,260 --> 00:13:10,443 PROFESSOR: Any questions for her? 263 00:13:10,443 --> 00:13:11,234 UYANGA TSEDEV: Yes? 264 00:13:11,234 --> 00:13:13,604 AUDIENCE: You were using specific examples 265 00:13:13,604 --> 00:13:18,520 for the cancer, but can these detect any type of cancer, 266 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,852 or is it just specific, or a couple of types? 267 00:13:21,852 --> 00:13:23,810 UYANGA TSEDEV: It can detect any type of cancer 268 00:13:23,810 --> 00:13:28,830 as long as you have a specific differentiating marker 269 00:13:28,830 --> 00:13:31,460 on the cancer that you know of. 270 00:13:31,460 --> 00:13:34,320 So not only is this useful in cancer, 271 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,320 it's also useful in detecting any other material. 272 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,460 As long as you're able to modify the head so 273 00:13:39,460 --> 00:13:44,700 that it is specific to that material or to that cell, 274 00:13:44,700 --> 00:13:48,160 then you can do that, which makes it a very elegant, very 275 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,650 cool molecule, which is why I think it's something 276 00:13:50,650 --> 00:13:51,630 I should be using. 277 00:13:51,630 --> 00:13:52,830 [CHUCKLING] 278 00:13:56,130 --> 00:13:59,130 PROFESSOR: Any other questions? 279 00:13:59,130 --> 00:13:59,730 Great. 280 00:13:59,730 --> 00:14:00,480 Thank you, Uyanga. 281 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:01,230 [APPLAUSE] 282 00:14:01,230 --> 00:14:02,430 UYANGA TSEDEV: Thank you. 283 00:14:02,430 --> 00:14:05,780 [APPLAUSE]