1 00:00:05,390 --> 00:00:07,830 IDOIA ORTIZ DE ARTINANO GONI: So my name is Idoia. 2 00:00:07,830 --> 00:00:11,680 I've been working with Anjali Sastry for a year now. 3 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,950 In two independent studies, actually, I did two. 4 00:00:14,950 --> 00:00:17,480 I am in the class of the Sloan Fellows '18. 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,240 I just graduated two weeks ago. 6 00:00:23,570 --> 00:00:27,580 So when I came here to Sloan, I was interested, 7 00:00:27,580 --> 00:00:30,670 and I was super focused on working in intersection 8 00:00:30,670 --> 00:00:32,680 of government, technology, innovation, 9 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:34,540 and entrepreneurship. 10 00:00:34,540 --> 00:00:36,770 When I started doing my research, 11 00:00:36,770 --> 00:00:40,300 I realized that there was a super interesting space, 12 00:00:40,300 --> 00:00:43,460 that it's about the startups doing work 13 00:00:43,460 --> 00:00:47,810 in selling to governments to improve the service delivery. 14 00:00:47,810 --> 00:00:50,170 So my research, my independent study, 15 00:00:50,170 --> 00:00:51,520 has been focused on this space. 16 00:00:55,560 --> 00:01:00,350 So to narrow the topic of my independent study, 17 00:01:00,350 --> 00:01:05,150 the key was the work that I did with Anjali. 18 00:01:05,150 --> 00:01:07,400 Actually, she helped me a lot. 19 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,620 And when you come here to the university, 20 00:01:09,620 --> 00:01:11,390 you have a lot of interests. 21 00:01:11,390 --> 00:01:12,752 And everything is super broad. 22 00:01:12,752 --> 00:01:14,960 You want to do everything, and you can't in this kind 23 00:01:14,960 --> 00:01:15,890 of independent study. 24 00:01:15,890 --> 00:01:18,380 So having these kind of conversations 25 00:01:18,380 --> 00:01:22,910 every week, several hours per week, helped me a lot. 26 00:01:27,790 --> 00:01:30,670 So what I wanted to do with my independent study 27 00:01:30,670 --> 00:01:36,620 was a combination of research to see 28 00:01:36,620 --> 00:01:40,930 which was the academic or these research 29 00:01:40,930 --> 00:01:43,240 papers already made in the market, in this market, 30 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:47,080 or in this specific space, but also see and take 31 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:51,010 advantage of the connections that you have here at MIT 32 00:01:51,010 --> 00:01:53,620 to see what was going on in the market. 33 00:01:53,620 --> 00:01:57,580 So with Anjali, we decided to create 34 00:01:57,580 --> 00:02:00,670 what we call Public Tech at MIT Series of speakers, 35 00:02:00,670 --> 00:02:04,990 that it was a good excuse for us to go out there, 36 00:02:04,990 --> 00:02:07,330 say, OK, I'm doing this research. 37 00:02:07,330 --> 00:02:10,150 I'm doing these lines of research 38 00:02:10,150 --> 00:02:11,704 about these, these, and these things. 39 00:02:11,704 --> 00:02:13,870 But I want to know what you are doing in this space. 40 00:02:13,870 --> 00:02:15,760 So please, can you come here to MIT 41 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,460 and explain us what you are doing? 42 00:02:18,460 --> 00:02:19,990 And I mean, that was amazing. 43 00:02:19,990 --> 00:02:22,390 I don't think that no one is coming nowhere 44 00:02:22,390 --> 00:02:23,560 if you as a student go. 45 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,750 But if you go and you say, I'm studying 46 00:02:25,750 --> 00:02:27,580 what you are doing here at MIT. 47 00:02:27,580 --> 00:02:28,510 They come. 48 00:02:28,510 --> 00:02:31,660 So with this excuse, we had several people, 49 00:02:31,660 --> 00:02:35,920 super level people doing super interesting stuff, that 50 00:02:35,920 --> 00:02:39,730 came here to explain us what they were doing. 51 00:02:39,730 --> 00:02:41,890 And afterwards, we had the opportunity, of course, 52 00:02:41,890 --> 00:02:44,620 to take all that experience and all that information 53 00:02:44,620 --> 00:02:48,530 to put it, in my case, in my research paper. 54 00:02:48,530 --> 00:02:49,630 And that was amazing. 55 00:02:54,270 --> 00:02:56,370 Here in Sloan, you come, and suddenly, you 56 00:02:56,370 --> 00:03:00,470 have an entire ecosystem for you. 57 00:03:00,470 --> 00:03:02,820 The challenge here is to understand the ecosystem 58 00:03:02,820 --> 00:03:06,240 and to know where is your tribe of people that 59 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:07,710 are interested in the same things 60 00:03:07,710 --> 00:03:10,170 that you are interested in and to be 61 00:03:10,170 --> 00:03:11,670 super efficient with your time. 62 00:03:11,670 --> 00:03:14,211 Because at the end of the day, you have so many things to do. 63 00:03:14,211 --> 00:03:16,860 So that combination of good classes-- 64 00:03:16,860 --> 00:03:19,710 I mean like the state of the art of many things 65 00:03:19,710 --> 00:03:21,390 in these classes-- 66 00:03:21,390 --> 00:03:24,840 and this ecosystem on opportunities to do 67 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:29,760 and action learning and to have this kind of interaction 68 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,720 and debates and conversations with people 69 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,320 that are already doing these kind of things, it's amazing. 70 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,370 I don't think that you will have these 71 00:03:39,370 --> 00:03:41,840 in many other universities. 72 00:03:46,390 --> 00:03:50,540 Well, I learned many things during this process, 73 00:03:50,540 --> 00:03:52,540 especially because I was interested in something 74 00:03:52,540 --> 00:03:57,790 super, super specific and not necessarily very common 75 00:03:57,790 --> 00:03:59,320 in this school. 76 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,180 So I was coming from the public sector. 77 00:04:01,180 --> 00:04:02,650 This is a business school. 78 00:04:02,650 --> 00:04:06,490 But it still is a business and administration school, right? 79 00:04:06,490 --> 00:04:09,170 So in Australia, you have also in the government. 80 00:04:09,170 --> 00:04:13,840 So what I had the chance with this independent study 81 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,980 was like to focus on a specifically this space 82 00:04:17,980 --> 00:04:20,709 that maybe I didn't have too many chances or too 83 00:04:20,709 --> 00:04:24,070 many opportunities to work on in other classes 84 00:04:24,070 --> 00:04:29,110 or in another events or whatever that they had in the school. 85 00:04:32,980 --> 00:04:36,130 So the structure, the work, in independent study 86 00:04:36,130 --> 00:04:37,990 is kind of complicated. 87 00:04:37,990 --> 00:04:40,370 I think that it's the most challenging thing. 88 00:04:40,370 --> 00:04:40,870 Why? 89 00:04:40,870 --> 00:04:43,340 Because at the end of the day, you have a lot of classes 90 00:04:43,340 --> 00:04:46,660 with a lot of a homework and assignments due 91 00:04:46,660 --> 00:04:48,610 tomorrow or yesterday. 92 00:04:48,610 --> 00:04:51,640 So when you have these independent studies 93 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:55,490 that you know that you have the whole term to do it, 94 00:04:55,490 --> 00:04:58,210 you are always having other kind of priorities. 95 00:04:58,210 --> 00:05:02,800 So for me, it was key to create an outline from the beginning 96 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,230 and create a schedule for that outline. 97 00:05:05,230 --> 00:05:08,590 So at least I knew, and I was tracking my performance 98 00:05:08,590 --> 00:05:10,570 and my development. 99 00:05:10,570 --> 00:05:11,750 And that helped a lot. 100 00:05:11,750 --> 00:05:13,250 It's true that at the end of the day 101 00:05:13,250 --> 00:05:16,030 you take this last week that you have at the end of the term 102 00:05:16,030 --> 00:05:20,230 to focus or to create, to edit, or to make 103 00:05:20,230 --> 00:05:23,900 it the substantial thing of the independent study, 104 00:05:23,900 --> 00:05:28,060 but I think that I did a very good job 105 00:05:28,060 --> 00:05:32,380 of doing these all these research and everything before. 106 00:05:32,380 --> 00:05:34,780 I would say in the first part of the term. 107 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,100 Talking about the challenges that I 108 00:05:43,100 --> 00:05:46,370 had when working my independent study, 109 00:05:46,370 --> 00:05:49,370 I would say that maybe in my second independent study 110 00:05:49,370 --> 00:05:52,100 that it was about, as I said before, 111 00:05:52,100 --> 00:05:55,040 taking a case, a real case, and use 112 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:59,280 the research and the academic content that I was studying, 113 00:05:59,280 --> 00:06:01,270 apply it, and see what could happen. 114 00:06:01,270 --> 00:06:07,010 And so I started with, let's say, with an idea, 115 00:06:07,010 --> 00:06:10,130 thinking that that was the right thing to do 116 00:06:10,130 --> 00:06:13,700 and that it could work in that specific context. 117 00:06:13,700 --> 00:06:16,460 For a specific example there, I was studying in Peru. 118 00:06:16,460 --> 00:06:19,610 And when I went through all the research, 119 00:06:19,610 --> 00:06:22,790 I was realizing that it was not going to work. 120 00:06:22,790 --> 00:06:25,040 And that's super complicated because it's a real case. 121 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:29,920 It's real people working with a lot of engagement 122 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:37,400 and a lot of ideas or are super positive about doing something 123 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:38,000 like that. 124 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:42,860 And I was seen studying different cases, 125 00:06:42,860 --> 00:06:46,010 studying the research done, studying all the information 126 00:06:46,010 --> 00:06:49,010 that I could get from the MIT, that thing 127 00:06:49,010 --> 00:06:49,980 that they were doing. 128 00:06:49,980 --> 00:06:50,771 And I was studying. 129 00:06:50,771 --> 00:06:52,500 It was not going to work. 130 00:06:52,500 --> 00:06:54,980 So for me, it was kind of struggling in the process 131 00:06:54,980 --> 00:06:57,560 because I didn't want to tell them that, 132 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,690 but I could not do it. 133 00:06:59,690 --> 00:07:03,260 So I remember that I went through all the process 134 00:07:03,260 --> 00:07:05,280 of writing everything. 135 00:07:05,280 --> 00:07:08,420 And at the end of the day, at the end of the process, I said, 136 00:07:08,420 --> 00:07:10,670 I need to put down my recommendations 137 00:07:10,670 --> 00:07:11,930 and hard recommendations. 138 00:07:11,930 --> 00:07:14,630 Like saying, OK, so there are some baselines 139 00:07:14,630 --> 00:07:16,702 that you are taking from random that are not OK-- 140 00:07:16,702 --> 00:07:19,160 blah, blah, blah, this kind of things that it was kind of-- 141 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:20,960 And I had a conversation with them. 142 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:22,100 It was hard. 143 00:07:22,100 --> 00:07:24,454 But you can see there the real value 144 00:07:24,454 --> 00:07:26,120 of the independent study and the process 145 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:27,203 that you are doing, right? 146 00:07:27,203 --> 00:07:29,019 At least I guess that-- 147 00:07:29,019 --> 00:07:31,310 I don't think that they are doing any more this project 148 00:07:31,310 --> 00:07:34,040 because the conversation that we had because the research 149 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:35,300 that I did. 150 00:07:35,300 --> 00:07:38,040 And that has value. 151 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:39,742 But it was hard.