1 00:00:00,645 --> 00:00:02,728 The following content is provided under a Creative 2 00:00:02,728 --> 00:00:02,730 Commons license. 3 00:00:02,730 --> 00:00:02,736 Your support will help MIT OpenCourseWare 4 00:00:02,736 --> 00:00:02,745 continue to offer high quality educational resources for free. 5 00:00:02,745 --> 00:00:02,754 To make a donation or to view additional materials 6 00:00:02,754 --> 00:00:02,762 from hundreds of MIT courses, visit MIT OpenCourseWare 7 00:00:02,762 --> 00:00:03,387 at ocw.mit.edu. 8 00:00:22,530 --> 00:00:25,470 MICHAEL SHORT: So, before we begin today's bit on dose, 9 00:00:25,470 --> 00:00:27,180 dosimetry, and background radiation, 10 00:00:27,180 --> 00:00:28,770 I promised you guys a story about how 11 00:00:28,770 --> 00:00:32,409 to use 22.01 to get out of Apartheid, South Africa. 12 00:00:32,409 --> 00:00:35,910 So, I got told this story when my cousin was about to get 13 00:00:35,910 --> 00:00:39,480 married because he needed a diamond and he was going to go 14 00:00:39,480 --> 00:00:42,430 buy one and his dad said, don't. 15 00:00:42,430 --> 00:00:46,870 So back in the 70s, when my uncle and his family 16 00:00:46,870 --> 00:00:48,460 were living in South Africa, anyone 17 00:00:48,460 --> 00:00:51,190 who wasn't Dutch white, so that would be blacks, 18 00:00:51,190 --> 00:00:54,010 Jews, including us, anyone else was 19 00:00:54,010 --> 00:00:57,252 considered second-class citizens by the Apartheid Government. 20 00:00:57,252 --> 00:00:59,710 And you were allowed to leave, because they didn't want you 21 00:00:59,710 --> 00:01:01,570 there, but you had to surrender all of your funds 22 00:01:01,570 --> 00:01:03,220 to the government in order to leave, 23 00:01:03,220 --> 00:01:05,880 which gives me everything you have and then 24 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:07,630 you can leave the country penniless is not 25 00:01:07,630 --> 00:01:09,280 a winning proposition. 26 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:13,270 So, my uncle and his brother devised a pretty brilliant idea 27 00:01:13,270 --> 00:01:16,660 to get their funds out of South Africa unnoticed. 28 00:01:16,660 --> 00:01:19,450 They were both dentists or radiologists 29 00:01:19,450 --> 00:01:22,750 or some sort of medical doctor that requires x-ray reading. 30 00:01:22,750 --> 00:01:26,015 So, one of them gave the other one all of his money, 31 00:01:26,015 --> 00:01:28,390 then reported bank statements to the Apartheid Government 32 00:01:28,390 --> 00:01:30,670 and said, I'm pretty much penniless. 33 00:01:30,670 --> 00:01:32,173 My practice went broke. 34 00:01:32,173 --> 00:01:33,340 I want to leave the country. 35 00:01:33,340 --> 00:01:35,050 And they said, OK, get out of here. 36 00:01:35,050 --> 00:01:37,180 So he went to the US, established 37 00:01:37,180 --> 00:01:40,180 a dental or radiological or some other sort of practice, 38 00:01:40,180 --> 00:01:44,140 I forget which one, and started requesting his brother, 39 00:01:44,140 --> 00:01:46,510 back in South Africa, to send him x-rays to read 40 00:01:46,510 --> 00:01:48,760 to help boost his business. 41 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,910 Because that was their actual business, it was pretty legit. 42 00:01:51,910 --> 00:01:54,640 So then my uncle would send him packets of x-rays 43 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,220 to interpret and send back. 44 00:01:57,220 --> 00:01:59,950 Except that there would be 10 x-rays on the front 45 00:01:59,950 --> 00:02:02,110 and 10 on the bottom, and the middle 80 46 00:02:02,110 --> 00:02:03,130 would be hollowed out. 47 00:02:03,130 --> 00:02:04,930 AUDIENCE: Oh! 48 00:02:04,930 --> 00:02:07,120 MICHAEL SHORT: Now that would have ordinarily have 49 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,690 tripped off alarms because any change in density 50 00:02:10,690 --> 00:02:13,090 would trigger a change in x-ray contrast. 51 00:02:13,090 --> 00:02:15,670 Because these packages were being inspected by x-ray, 52 00:02:15,670 --> 00:02:17,968 and if it looked like these x-rays were hollow 53 00:02:17,968 --> 00:02:19,510 and you were smuggling something out, 54 00:02:19,510 --> 00:02:22,080 they'd be caught and confiscated. 55 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,740 So what sort of materials are valuable that you 56 00:02:25,740 --> 00:02:28,620 find in South Africa, that are pretty 57 00:02:28,620 --> 00:02:34,128 similar in x-ray contrast to other light media like film? 58 00:02:34,128 --> 00:02:34,920 AUDIENCE: Diamonds. 59 00:02:34,920 --> 00:02:36,910 MICHAEL SHORT: Diamonds. 60 00:02:36,910 --> 00:02:39,940 So the remaining brother went and converted 61 00:02:39,940 --> 00:02:42,550 all of his life savings into diamonds, which is something 62 00:02:42,550 --> 00:02:45,040 that you can do in South Africa because this 63 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,000 is where diamonds come from. 64 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,660 He then slowly, over a period of months or years, 65 00:02:49,660 --> 00:02:52,840 sent packets of hollow x-rays full of diamonds 66 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,200 to his brother in the states, knowing full well 67 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:00,580 that the mass attenuation coefficients of soft tissue 68 00:03:00,580 --> 00:03:04,430 and carbon are pretty similar and so are their densities. 69 00:03:04,430 --> 00:03:06,700 So their total attenuation coefficients 70 00:03:06,700 --> 00:03:08,950 are pretty similar, to. 71 00:03:08,950 --> 00:03:11,770 Let's pull those up so we can check it. 72 00:03:11,770 --> 00:03:13,536 Carbon graphite. 73 00:03:13,536 --> 00:03:17,420 I'm going to add a new tab and bring up soft tissue 74 00:03:17,420 --> 00:03:19,210 and we can compare them. 75 00:03:19,210 --> 00:03:22,850 Let's see, what's the most similar-- 76 00:03:22,850 --> 00:03:25,025 so long as you can see it-- thing to film? 77 00:03:28,460 --> 00:03:31,140 What should we call film here? 78 00:03:31,140 --> 00:03:32,468 X-ray film? 79 00:03:32,468 --> 00:03:34,760 AUDIENCE: I don't even know what X-ray film [INAUDIBLE] 80 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:35,870 MICHAEL SHORT: Photographic emulsion. 81 00:03:35,870 --> 00:03:36,495 How about that? 82 00:03:36,495 --> 00:03:37,766 AUDIENCE: Kodak. 83 00:03:37,766 --> 00:03:39,586 MICHAEL SHORT: Is there something Kodak? 84 00:03:39,586 --> 00:03:41,620 OK. 85 00:03:41,620 --> 00:03:42,940 Kodak, standard nuclear. 86 00:03:42,940 --> 00:03:46,370 I don't think that sounds right. 87 00:03:46,370 --> 00:03:49,610 Let's go with polyethylene and plastic. 88 00:03:49,610 --> 00:03:52,220 Carbon, plastic. 89 00:03:52,220 --> 00:03:53,765 Carbon, plastic. 90 00:03:53,765 --> 00:03:55,160 AUDIENCE: [LAUGHTER] 91 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,590 MICHAEL SHORT: Carbon, plastic. 92 00:03:57,590 --> 00:03:59,840 Basically identical. 93 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,480 So this is a way they were able to smuggle wealth out 94 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,980 of the country without x-ray contrast tripping off 95 00:04:04,980 --> 00:04:05,480 the guards. 96 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:06,980 And once all of the slave savings 97 00:04:06,980 --> 00:04:08,948 had been converted into diamonds, 98 00:04:08,948 --> 00:04:11,240 he then went to the government and said, I'm penniless. 99 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:12,387 My practice went broke. 100 00:04:12,387 --> 00:04:13,470 I want to get out of here. 101 00:04:13,470 --> 00:04:14,940 And they said, good riddance. 102 00:04:14,940 --> 00:04:15,860 AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] 103 00:04:15,860 --> 00:04:16,610 MICHAEL SHORT: Yeah. 104 00:04:16,610 --> 00:04:18,140 So they were able to restart their life 105 00:04:18,140 --> 00:04:19,598 in the states with all of the money 106 00:04:19,598 --> 00:04:21,015 that they had had in South Africa. 107 00:04:21,015 --> 00:04:23,098 And when my cousin wanted to get married and said, 108 00:04:23,098 --> 00:04:25,440 I'm thinking of buying a diamond, my uncle just said oh, 109 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:25,940 don't. 110 00:04:25,940 --> 00:04:27,398 He's like, what, don't get married? 111 00:04:27,398 --> 00:04:28,910 He said, no, don't buy a diamond. 112 00:04:28,910 --> 00:04:30,743 Here, let me take you to the diamond drawer. 113 00:04:30,743 --> 00:04:31,887 AUDIENCE: [LAUGHTER] 114 00:04:31,887 --> 00:04:32,720 MICHAEL SHORT: Yeah. 115 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,670 Because there was some leftover. 116 00:04:34,670 --> 00:04:37,250 So he said, pick out an extra diamond. 117 00:04:37,250 --> 00:04:40,370 And that's the story of my cousin's engagement ring, 118 00:04:40,370 --> 00:04:42,620 as well as why part of my family's here in the States. 119 00:04:42,620 --> 00:04:45,260 AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] That's like a very cool diamond story. 120 00:04:45,260 --> 00:04:49,200 MICHAEL SHORT: Yeah, very, very nuclear diamond story. 121 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,510 Diamonds aren't forever, as the finish have shown us, 122 00:04:51,510 --> 00:04:55,550 but they can get you out of repressive regimes. 123 00:04:55,550 --> 00:05:00,032 OK, back to the dose stuff. 124 00:05:00,032 --> 00:05:01,740 So today, and for the rest of the course, 125 00:05:01,740 --> 00:05:04,950 we get into biological and chemical effects of radiation. 126 00:05:04,950 --> 00:05:06,475 As soon as this pops up. 127 00:05:06,475 --> 00:05:08,100 And so in the first slide is everything 128 00:05:08,100 --> 00:05:11,220 you need to know about dose and units. 129 00:05:11,220 --> 00:05:13,230 Don't worry, it's not up there yet. 130 00:05:13,230 --> 00:05:15,330 I know that different units of dose 131 00:05:15,330 --> 00:05:16,900 are a common point of confusion. 132 00:05:16,900 --> 00:05:18,950 So I wanted to put everything on one slide 133 00:05:18,950 --> 00:05:21,520 so you can refer back to it like a cheat sheet. 134 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,970 So, you've probably heard of the roentgen before. 135 00:05:23,970 --> 00:05:26,760 You've definitely seen the roentgen as a unit 136 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,810 because you've all looked in those pen or pocket dosimeter 137 00:05:30,810 --> 00:05:32,820 that you actually had at the nuclear reactor, 138 00:05:32,820 --> 00:05:35,970 when you guys took a tour of it and controlled the control 139 00:05:35,970 --> 00:05:36,810 rods. 140 00:05:36,810 --> 00:05:39,810 The roentgen is not really a unit that we use much anymore 141 00:05:39,810 --> 00:05:43,470 for very careful calculations because you 142 00:05:43,470 --> 00:05:46,080 have to do some tissue equivalency stuff 143 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,830 in order to go from ionizations in air, which 144 00:05:49,830 --> 00:05:51,285 is what it actually measures, it's 145 00:05:51,285 --> 00:05:55,500 the amount of charge dissipated or built up in air, 146 00:05:55,500 --> 00:05:58,320 to some damage to soft tissue. 147 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,360 And the way you actually calculate roentgens 148 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,510 from first principles, linking the physics and the biology 149 00:06:03,510 --> 00:06:06,540 part, is remember this equation here? 150 00:06:06,540 --> 00:06:09,360 Stopping power, which is some energy transfer, 151 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,270 divided by the energy required to make an ion. 152 00:06:12,270 --> 00:06:15,510 Each one of those will give one electron unit of charge 153 00:06:15,510 --> 00:06:18,040 towards [INAUDIBLE] coulombs. 154 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,400 And so this is the direct link between the physics 155 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,740 and the chemistry/biology in this course. 156 00:06:22,740 --> 00:06:25,363 It's not something that's done that carefully in any 157 00:06:25,363 --> 00:06:27,780 of the readings, which is why I'm going to harp on it here 158 00:06:27,780 --> 00:06:29,070 in lecture. 159 00:06:29,070 --> 00:06:31,560 These two parts of the course are often taught differently. 160 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,420 And they're actually totally related 161 00:06:33,420 --> 00:06:36,130 and everything's all the same, which is kind of nice. 162 00:06:36,130 --> 00:06:39,260 You don't have to just relearn a whole new lingo and field. 163 00:06:39,260 --> 00:06:41,060 Then there is the SI units of dose. 164 00:06:41,060 --> 00:06:43,557 The ones that, when you do calculations in the homework 165 00:06:43,557 --> 00:06:45,140 and the rest of your life, I recommend 166 00:06:45,140 --> 00:06:48,410 that you use whenever possible because they're 167 00:06:48,410 --> 00:06:52,100 in units that we're familiar with, in standard units. 168 00:06:52,100 --> 00:06:54,370 The one where you start with all along is the gray. 169 00:06:54,370 --> 00:06:59,240 A gray is the simple measure of absorbed energy in joules 170 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,850 per kilogram of whatever. 171 00:07:01,850 --> 00:07:05,130 And so calculating it is fairly straightforward, too. 172 00:07:05,130 --> 00:07:08,420 For example, if you want to know what sort of dose you would get 173 00:07:08,420 --> 00:07:11,690 in gray from absorbing gamma rays, 174 00:07:11,690 --> 00:07:14,827 you can use this old equation from the first third 175 00:07:14,827 --> 00:07:15,410 of the course. 176 00:07:20,660 --> 00:07:25,210 And if you integrate this from, let's say, 177 00:07:25,210 --> 00:07:28,000 over the range of whatever object or person 178 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,830 you happen to be irradiating, you'll 179 00:07:29,830 --> 00:07:32,440 get some fractional difference in intensity. 180 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,440 That, multiplied by the original intensity of gammas, which 181 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,710 could be given in maybe gamma rays per centimeter 182 00:07:38,710 --> 00:07:42,010 squared per second, maybe times time 183 00:07:42,010 --> 00:07:44,590 to get total number of gammas per centimeter squared. 184 00:07:48,740 --> 00:07:53,420 All that multiplied by the energy of each gamma, 185 00:07:53,420 --> 00:07:58,670 divided by the mass of whatever is doing the absorbing, 186 00:07:58,670 --> 00:08:01,140 equals your dose in gray. 187 00:08:01,140 --> 00:08:03,840 So you can use all the old stuff from the previous parts 188 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,355 of the course directly to calculate dose in gray. 189 00:08:07,355 --> 00:08:09,480 And this is the starting point for any calculation. 190 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,910 If you don't know what tissue was exposed, 191 00:08:11,910 --> 00:08:15,390 what type of radiation provides what biological effectiveness, 192 00:08:15,390 --> 00:08:16,230 it doesn't matter. 193 00:08:16,230 --> 00:08:19,130 You just start here. 194 00:08:19,130 --> 00:08:20,720 Then the other unit you may have seen 195 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,820 is a unit, not of energy absorption, 196 00:08:22,820 --> 00:08:25,430 but of increased risk for something going 197 00:08:25,430 --> 00:08:27,470 wrong in the biological sense. 198 00:08:27,470 --> 00:08:29,030 It's called the sievert. 199 00:08:29,030 --> 00:08:33,039 For simple things like whole body dose from gamma rays, 200 00:08:33,039 --> 00:08:35,900 sieverts equals gray, because sievert 201 00:08:35,900 --> 00:08:39,500 is multiplied by this quality factor, or this effectiveness 202 00:08:39,500 --> 00:08:40,549 factor. 203 00:08:40,549 --> 00:08:42,870 That Q factor is actually a couple of factors. 204 00:08:42,870 --> 00:08:47,770 There's a Q for the type of tissue 205 00:08:47,770 --> 00:08:49,610 and there's a Q for the type of radiation. 206 00:08:53,780 --> 00:08:55,730 And the total quality factor for whatever 207 00:08:55,730 --> 00:08:59,388 you're trying to calculate is just the multiplication 208 00:08:59,388 --> 00:08:59,930 of these two. 209 00:09:07,835 --> 00:09:09,460 And so it's fairly easy, if you're ever 210 00:09:09,460 --> 00:09:13,240 dealing with whole body gamma dose, gray equals sieverts. 211 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,180 If you're dealing with pretty much anything different, gray 212 00:09:16,180 --> 00:09:17,290 does not equal sieverts. 213 00:09:17,290 --> 00:09:19,480 There'll be just some factor to add in, 214 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,280 which can be looked up from a lookup table 215 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,860 but, as I've told you before, I don't like that explanation, 216 00:09:23,860 --> 00:09:25,120 look it up on a table. 217 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,850 We're going to explore why the lookup tables are constructed 218 00:09:27,850 --> 00:09:30,400 the way they are. 219 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,770 And then there's the CGS units, the ones 220 00:09:32,770 --> 00:09:35,950 that are based in centimeter-gram-second, instead 221 00:09:35,950 --> 00:09:39,150 of kilogram-meter-second. 222 00:09:39,150 --> 00:09:41,420 The rad is a simple measure. 223 00:09:41,420 --> 00:09:44,085 It's, let's say, 100 rad is just 1 gray. 224 00:09:44,085 --> 00:09:45,460 Where the rad actually comes from 225 00:09:45,460 --> 00:09:50,560 is, it's defined as 100 ergs absorbed energy per gram, 226 00:09:50,560 --> 00:09:53,410 where an erg is 10 to the minus 7 joules 227 00:09:53,410 --> 00:09:56,843 and a gram is 10 to the minus 3 kilograms. 228 00:09:56,843 --> 00:09:58,510 And so, you can do the mental math there 229 00:09:58,510 --> 00:10:01,000 to make sure these all work out. 230 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,120 And then a REM, a roentgen equivalent man, 231 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,850 is just a hundredth of a sievert. 232 00:10:06,850 --> 00:10:08,950 So there's historical basis for this. 233 00:10:08,950 --> 00:10:11,380 Back in the day, more folks used CGS units. 234 00:10:11,380 --> 00:10:13,660 There's been a push to SI units, which 235 00:10:13,660 --> 00:10:16,225 I happen to like because everything works out 236 00:10:16,225 --> 00:10:18,100 and you don't have to remember things like 10 237 00:10:18,100 --> 00:10:21,530 to the minus 7 joules or whatever like that. 238 00:10:21,530 --> 00:10:24,130 So I'd say, when in doubt, for equal comparisons 239 00:10:24,130 --> 00:10:26,740 always use the SI units and always 240 00:10:26,740 --> 00:10:28,330 start with the gray because that's 241 00:10:28,330 --> 00:10:31,420 something where you can take a physical calculation of energy 242 00:10:31,420 --> 00:10:35,860 per kilogram and go into some increased cancer risk 243 00:10:35,860 --> 00:10:38,630 by using the dose quality factors. 244 00:10:38,630 --> 00:10:41,620 So let's take a look at how these appear. 245 00:10:41,620 --> 00:10:43,930 First of all, gammas, x-rays, electrons, 246 00:10:43,930 --> 00:10:46,630 positrons of any LET. 247 00:10:46,630 --> 00:10:49,870 LET, as I mentioned before, is linear energy transfer. 248 00:10:58,267 --> 00:10:59,850 And to put this mathematically, you've 249 00:10:59,850 --> 00:11:06,020 actually seen this before, which would be some change in energy 250 00:11:06,020 --> 00:11:09,850 over some change in distance. 251 00:11:09,850 --> 00:11:11,660 It's the stopping power. 252 00:11:11,660 --> 00:11:14,660 It's not like the stopping power, it's the stopping power. 253 00:11:14,660 --> 00:11:17,660 So with the formulas you got in the second half of this class, 254 00:11:17,660 --> 00:11:20,600 you can calculate linear energy transfer. 255 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:25,670 Now, why are these things given in, let's say, discrete tables, 256 00:11:25,670 --> 00:11:30,380 or now what's currently recommended is these functions? 257 00:11:30,380 --> 00:11:31,510 Does anyone have any idea? 258 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,100 How many of your Core Seven friends 259 00:11:40,100 --> 00:11:44,380 know the formula for stopping power, or could parse it even, 260 00:11:44,380 --> 00:11:45,840 or understand it? 261 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,090 You don't have to, not everybody has to. 262 00:11:48,090 --> 00:11:52,470 So, for the rest of us, there are simpler empirical relations 263 00:11:52,470 --> 00:11:55,350 or relations that get the numbers right that aren't 264 00:11:55,350 --> 00:11:58,110 necessarily based on physics. 265 00:11:58,110 --> 00:11:59,760 So a simple lookup table, for those 266 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,895 who don't have time to take 22.01 or something beyond, 267 00:12:02,895 --> 00:12:04,020 is the easiest thing to do. 268 00:12:04,020 --> 00:12:05,310 And in most cases it works. 269 00:12:05,310 --> 00:12:08,310 It's not exact, but it's probably close enough. 270 00:12:08,310 --> 00:12:11,790 Given uncertainties in the amount of radiation 271 00:12:11,790 --> 00:12:15,420 that one could absorb or the weight of a certain organ 272 00:12:15,420 --> 00:12:18,600 or the energy of some x-ray tube, 273 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,548 I think these empirical things are pretty much good enough. 274 00:12:22,548 --> 00:12:24,090 And what this tells you is that there 275 00:12:24,090 --> 00:12:27,450 is some effectiveness of different types of radiation 276 00:12:27,450 --> 00:12:29,580 and different energies of radiation 277 00:12:29,580 --> 00:12:34,140 at imparting energy to the parts of cells and organs 278 00:12:34,140 --> 00:12:36,050 that cause damage. 279 00:12:36,050 --> 00:12:38,540 To say that in a little smaller sentence, 280 00:12:38,540 --> 00:12:41,210 different energies of radiation can have different effects 281 00:12:41,210 --> 00:12:46,020 biologically, and these tissue factors account for that. 282 00:12:46,020 --> 00:12:46,800 It's also a table. 283 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,508 I want you to keep in mind because you're 284 00:12:48,508 --> 00:12:50,780 going to have to do a calculation about it. 285 00:12:50,780 --> 00:12:54,230 The principle elements in soft tissue in unit density, 286 00:12:54,230 --> 00:12:56,300 otherwise known as number density, 287 00:12:56,300 --> 00:12:57,830 which you've seen before. 288 00:12:57,830 --> 00:13:01,040 If you want to calculate the dose using a stopping power 289 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,970 formula to a human, you have to know what this human is made of 290 00:13:04,970 --> 00:13:06,710 and this is a pretty good assumption. 291 00:13:06,710 --> 00:13:09,417 And this is something you'll be doing on homework number 8, 292 00:13:09,417 --> 00:13:11,000 is finding the dose that you're giving 293 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,116 to each other in a particular situation. 294 00:13:14,116 --> 00:13:15,980 If anyone's seen the particular situation, 295 00:13:15,980 --> 00:13:18,500 check OCW for last year's course and you'll 296 00:13:18,500 --> 00:13:20,930 see what that situation will be. 297 00:13:20,930 --> 00:13:25,670 Has everyone gotten your whole body counts at the EHS Office? 298 00:13:25,670 --> 00:13:27,890 If anyone hasn't, do them in the next week 299 00:13:27,890 --> 00:13:31,130 because you'll need that data for the homework. 300 00:13:31,130 --> 00:13:33,020 You'll also need this table. 301 00:13:33,020 --> 00:13:36,770 Because if you think about it, if you want to say, well, 302 00:13:36,770 --> 00:13:41,000 what's the damage by electrons to soft tissue? 303 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,430 And you want to calculate this from scratch. 304 00:13:43,430 --> 00:13:45,750 You have these four number densities, 305 00:13:45,750 --> 00:13:47,470 so we'll keep those in account. 306 00:13:47,470 --> 00:13:50,990 And let's put up the formula for ionization 307 00:13:50,990 --> 00:13:52,010 stopping power again. 308 00:13:54,560 --> 00:13:57,980 Comes out with 4 pi, k not squared, 309 00:13:57,980 --> 00:14:01,450 little z squared, big Z, number density, 310 00:14:01,450 --> 00:14:07,840 e to the fourth, over MeV squared, log. 311 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:09,600 Let's see, what goes on top again? 312 00:14:12,830 --> 00:14:18,100 Oh, yeah, 2MeV squared, over the mean ionization energy. 313 00:14:18,100 --> 00:14:19,940 The nonrelativistic form. 314 00:14:19,940 --> 00:14:21,830 Which of these terms vary depending 315 00:14:21,830 --> 00:14:26,850 on the atom that an electron or whatever would strike? 316 00:14:26,850 --> 00:14:30,380 Let's circle them, there's a couple. 317 00:14:30,380 --> 00:14:31,520 AUDIENCE: Big Z. 318 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,370 MICHAEL SHORT: Big Z, what the electron's hitting. 319 00:14:34,370 --> 00:14:35,480 N, the number density. 320 00:14:44,066 --> 00:14:45,510 AUDIENCE: Ionization potential. 321 00:14:45,510 --> 00:14:48,703 MICHAEL SHORT: Yes, the mean ionization potential. 322 00:14:48,703 --> 00:14:50,370 So these three terms are the only things 323 00:14:50,370 --> 00:14:52,440 that change when you're doing a stopping 324 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,910 power to dose calculation. 325 00:14:54,910 --> 00:15:01,760 So if you want to get the total dose in gray to a human, 326 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:08,325 you have to sum over these four different isotopes. 327 00:15:08,325 --> 00:15:08,950 Actually, wait. 328 00:15:08,950 --> 00:15:12,580 Let me put all the other junk in front to make it quicker. 329 00:15:12,580 --> 00:15:16,625 So the 4 pi k0 squared little z squared 330 00:15:16,625 --> 00:15:22,180 e to the fourth over MeV squared is 331 00:15:22,180 --> 00:15:31,710 just a constant, times the sum over all your isotopes 332 00:15:31,710 --> 00:15:37,560 of zi, the number density of isotope i, 333 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:43,250 which inside there has the element fraction of that, 334 00:15:43,250 --> 00:15:48,600 times the log of 2 MeV squared over the mean ionization 335 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:52,446 potential of isotope i. 336 00:15:52,446 --> 00:15:55,378 And in this case, notice there's no isotopes given. 337 00:15:55,378 --> 00:15:56,670 They're just given as elements. 338 00:15:56,670 --> 00:15:59,630 Why do we do that? 339 00:15:59,630 --> 00:16:02,900 Why don't we care for humans? 340 00:16:02,900 --> 00:16:06,830 How many isotopes of hydrogen tend to exist in you? 341 00:16:06,830 --> 00:16:10,657 One, pretty much one, to about five significant digits. 342 00:16:10,657 --> 00:16:11,990 You all have a little deuterium. 343 00:16:11,990 --> 00:16:14,960 Something like 1 in every 20,000 atoms of hydrogen is deuterium. 344 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,760 But it's not a lot. 345 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:18,140 I think it's even less than that. 346 00:16:18,140 --> 00:16:20,840 Carbon is just carbon-12, except for the tiny amount 347 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,630 of carbon-14 you use for radio carbon dating. 348 00:16:23,630 --> 00:16:27,530 Oxygen, it's oxygen-- think what, 16? 349 00:16:27,530 --> 00:16:29,510 Nitrogen is nitrogen-14. 350 00:16:29,510 --> 00:16:31,580 So as long as you know what isotopes to use, 351 00:16:31,580 --> 00:16:35,630 you'll know what z's, what i bars. 352 00:16:35,630 --> 00:16:37,380 And the number density is given here. 353 00:16:37,380 --> 00:16:39,310 So this right here is how you calculate dose 354 00:16:39,310 --> 00:16:42,800 in gray to a human over some distance. 355 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:46,830 Then all you'd have to do is integrate that over your-- 356 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,160 let's say thickness of the human, 357 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:53,750 whatever that happens to be. 358 00:16:53,750 --> 00:16:56,955 And you get the total amount of dose imparted to them. 359 00:16:56,955 --> 00:16:59,080 So a lot of questions came up in last year's class. 360 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:00,980 How do we actually do these calculations? 361 00:17:00,980 --> 00:17:02,868 Well, this is how right here. 362 00:17:02,868 --> 00:17:04,910 First, separate out everything that's a constant. 363 00:17:04,910 --> 00:17:06,950 Because you only have to calculate it once, 364 00:17:06,950 --> 00:17:09,140 as I hope problem set 7 and 6 taught you guys, 365 00:17:09,140 --> 00:17:11,300 is separate out whatever you can first, 366 00:17:11,300 --> 00:17:12,770 and don't repeat yourself. 367 00:17:12,770 --> 00:17:14,540 Then sum over all the things that 368 00:17:14,540 --> 00:17:16,520 are unique to each isotope. 369 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,730 And inside this number density is the fraction 370 00:17:19,730 --> 00:17:21,349 of that isotope in every human. 371 00:17:21,349 --> 00:17:22,700 So it's all built in. 372 00:17:22,700 --> 00:17:24,983 So these calculations aren't that bad. 373 00:17:24,983 --> 00:17:26,650 Since you know how to do stopping power, 374 00:17:26,650 --> 00:17:28,600 you can take out 2/3 of the terms. 375 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,630 I don't know why I still have this. 376 00:17:31,630 --> 00:17:33,760 It's not terrible. 377 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,800 Can anyone not see through how to do this? 378 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:37,182 Or yeah, have a question? 379 00:17:37,182 --> 00:17:39,140 AUDIENCE: Where do we find the ionization term? 380 00:17:39,140 --> 00:17:41,560 MICHAEL SHORT: The mean ionization potential 381 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:45,940 can be usually approximated as about 10 electron volts 382 00:17:45,940 --> 00:17:48,610 times z. 383 00:17:48,610 --> 00:17:51,790 Except for the very light isotopes like hydrogen, 384 00:17:51,790 --> 00:17:55,870 it's somewhere between 10 and 19 eV. 385 00:17:55,870 --> 00:17:58,000 I would say one, you can just look them up. 386 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,370 Or two, you can use this empirical relation 387 00:18:00,370 --> 00:18:03,230 to get a good approximation. 388 00:18:03,230 --> 00:18:06,910 And empiricism definitely enters into the biological world, 389 00:18:06,910 --> 00:18:08,590 because uncertainties abound. 390 00:18:08,590 --> 00:18:11,890 And it's not always worth being ultra crazy exact, 391 00:18:11,890 --> 00:18:15,280 although it can't hurt. 392 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,220 Any other questions on how to actually carry out 393 00:18:18,220 --> 00:18:20,250 a dose calculation using stopping power? 394 00:18:22,900 --> 00:18:25,020 Hopefully it's pretty straightforward. 395 00:18:25,020 --> 00:18:27,900 Guess we'll find out on the homework. 396 00:18:27,900 --> 00:18:31,740 The other quality factors to mention-- 397 00:18:31,740 --> 00:18:34,300 there are some different ideas about these quality factors. 398 00:18:34,300 --> 00:18:37,780 Notice the scales are fairly coarse. 399 00:18:37,780 --> 00:18:40,780 So again, there's a lot of uncertainty or slop 400 00:18:40,780 --> 00:18:42,200 in these values. 401 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,340 But notice that for, let's say, X-rays, gammas, betas 402 00:18:45,340 --> 00:18:49,900 of all energies and charges, the quality factor is 1. 403 00:18:49,900 --> 00:18:51,130 Why do you think that is? 404 00:18:56,550 --> 00:18:59,640 Let's go for the case of X-rays or gammas. 405 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,340 What tends to be the attenuation coefficient 406 00:19:02,340 --> 00:19:07,460 of any photon in soft tissue of considerable energy? 407 00:19:07,460 --> 00:19:08,990 Pretty low. 408 00:19:08,990 --> 00:19:11,120 And the amount of energy that can be transferred 409 00:19:11,120 --> 00:19:14,510 by those photons is variable, anywhere 410 00:19:14,510 --> 00:19:16,490 from pretty low to pretty high. 411 00:19:16,490 --> 00:19:18,650 And so the resulting electron cascade 412 00:19:18,650 --> 00:19:20,780 isn't going to be that damaging. 413 00:19:20,780 --> 00:19:22,940 And it might not even be that localized. 414 00:19:22,940 --> 00:19:25,910 So let's say if you really want to know how much damage 415 00:19:25,910 --> 00:19:28,070 is it going to go do to the DNA of a cell, where 416 00:19:28,070 --> 00:19:31,730 it could mutate and cause cancer, not that much. 417 00:19:31,730 --> 00:19:33,650 Most of the gammas pass through you, 418 00:19:33,650 --> 00:19:35,600 and the ones that do get absorbed 419 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,900 can have rather long energy deposition tracks. 420 00:19:38,900 --> 00:19:43,650 Neutrons, however, interact nuclear stopping power. 421 00:19:43,650 --> 00:19:47,360 Or let's say they just interact with the nuclei of you, 422 00:19:47,360 --> 00:19:49,100 or whatever they're irradiating. 423 00:19:49,100 --> 00:19:50,690 And so when you knock out a nucleus, 424 00:19:50,690 --> 00:19:52,520 it can then slam into other atoms, 425 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:56,210 causing a huge and dense cascade of ionization. 426 00:19:56,210 --> 00:20:00,470 If that cascade happens to be near the nucleus of a cell, 427 00:20:00,470 --> 00:20:03,140 you better believe it's going to cause a lot of damage. 428 00:20:03,140 --> 00:20:06,260 And that's why these more energetic neutrons 429 00:20:06,260 --> 00:20:08,870 have a much higher quality factor, because they're 430 00:20:08,870 --> 00:20:11,870 much better at causing damage until you 431 00:20:11,870 --> 00:20:14,260 reach some sort of threshold. 432 00:20:14,260 --> 00:20:16,420 Why do you think it goes down at higher energies? 433 00:20:20,830 --> 00:20:21,370 Yeah. 434 00:20:21,370 --> 00:20:22,890 AUDIENCE: Well, because there's less of a probability 435 00:20:22,890 --> 00:20:25,240 that it would actually interact with [INAUDIBLE].. 436 00:20:27,860 --> 00:20:29,150 MICHAEL SHORT: Absolutely. 437 00:20:29,150 --> 00:20:33,290 Right around 2 MeV or 1 MeV, these cross sections 438 00:20:33,290 --> 00:20:35,040 tend to go down. 439 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,730 If we look at the cross-section for neutrons in anything-- 440 00:20:38,730 --> 00:20:42,780 let's look at hydrogen. [INAUDIBLE] 441 00:20:42,780 --> 00:20:45,800 still got to do the screen cloning thing again. 442 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:46,400 Bear with me. 443 00:20:50,650 --> 00:20:52,780 Let's look at any old cross section for, let's say, 444 00:20:52,780 --> 00:20:54,613 neutron scattering in, I don't know, oxygen. 445 00:20:54,613 --> 00:20:58,080 We've looked at hydrogen enough already. 446 00:20:58,080 --> 00:20:58,580 Cool. 447 00:20:58,580 --> 00:20:59,510 You can see that. 448 00:21:09,310 --> 00:21:11,350 Oxygen-16. 449 00:21:11,350 --> 00:21:15,280 We have incident neutrons, elastic scattering, 450 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:16,210 the bouncing off. 451 00:21:16,210 --> 00:21:18,790 Let's look at the form of this cross-section. 452 00:21:18,790 --> 00:21:24,010 Right around 1 MeV, things start to dip. 453 00:21:24,010 --> 00:21:26,910 And so yeah, the probability of any sort of interaction 454 00:21:26,910 --> 00:21:28,150 is going to go down. 455 00:21:28,150 --> 00:21:31,930 In addition, the atom that struck 456 00:21:31,930 --> 00:21:34,670 has a much higher energy, and therefore a higher range. 457 00:21:34,670 --> 00:21:36,430 So chances are, even if the neutron 458 00:21:36,430 --> 00:21:39,310 strikes an atom near the nucleus, 459 00:21:39,310 --> 00:21:42,010 it will have a higher range and can travel farther before 460 00:21:42,010 --> 00:21:46,570 that secondary cascade ends up depositing most of its damage 461 00:21:46,570 --> 00:21:48,150 at a lower energy. 462 00:21:48,150 --> 00:21:52,060 So if you remember for the stopping power for ionization 463 00:21:52,060 --> 00:21:56,280 or nuclear stopping power, they both look the same. 464 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,030 So I'm not going to label which one. 465 00:21:58,030 --> 00:22:00,100 It's fairly low at high energies, 466 00:22:00,100 --> 00:22:03,280 peaks at a rather low energy, and then comes down. 467 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:07,120 So it's at the end of the range of whatever particle, 468 00:22:07,120 --> 00:22:10,480 whether it be the neutron or the atoms that it struck, 469 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,040 that it does the most damage. 470 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,830 So you can kind of think like all forms of radiation-- 471 00:22:14,830 --> 00:22:15,940 except for photons-- 472 00:22:15,940 --> 00:22:17,860 as armor-piercing bullets. 473 00:22:17,860 --> 00:22:20,470 They don't do damage right where they enter. 474 00:22:20,470 --> 00:22:23,627 They do damage right where they stop and explode. 475 00:22:23,627 --> 00:22:25,210 In the case of armor-piercing bullets, 476 00:22:25,210 --> 00:22:26,800 it's a literal explosion. 477 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:31,450 In the case of neutrons, electrons, protons, heavy ions, 478 00:22:31,450 --> 00:22:33,910 it's at the end of their range they have the most stopping 479 00:22:33,910 --> 00:22:34,410 power. 480 00:22:34,410 --> 00:22:36,910 And that's where the dense cascade's going to be. 481 00:22:36,910 --> 00:22:39,250 So chances are, again, if a neutron 482 00:22:39,250 --> 00:22:43,270 happens to interact with the nucleus of a cell-- 483 00:22:43,270 --> 00:22:47,020 that's the simplest cell I can draw-- 484 00:22:47,020 --> 00:22:49,390 if a neutron comes in and strikes another atom, 485 00:22:49,390 --> 00:22:56,318 it may move far away before its armor-piercing explosion. 486 00:22:56,318 --> 00:22:57,360 Let's see the other ones. 487 00:22:57,360 --> 00:23:01,530 For protons, depending on which book you go to, 488 00:23:01,530 --> 00:23:03,250 you get a different effectiveness. 489 00:23:03,250 --> 00:23:07,440 It's higher than that of gammas and X-rays and electrons, 490 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,050 because you get a big cascade at the end. 491 00:23:10,050 --> 00:23:13,380 And alpha particles, really, really, damaging. 492 00:23:13,380 --> 00:23:15,300 And energy is like even a few MeV, 493 00:23:15,300 --> 00:23:16,710 they have a very short range. 494 00:23:16,710 --> 00:23:19,350 They tend to deposit a ton of energy. 495 00:23:19,350 --> 00:23:22,170 And that's why they have a huge effectiveness. 496 00:23:22,170 --> 00:23:24,210 This is also why alphas are the-- 497 00:23:24,210 --> 00:23:25,710 that's the one cookie you don't want 498 00:23:25,710 --> 00:23:29,040 to eat, if you guys remember this, the four cookies problem. 499 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,080 Never eat the alpha. 500 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,940 It's not going to get in through your skin, 501 00:23:32,940 --> 00:23:34,470 but if it gets into your body and 502 00:23:34,470 --> 00:23:38,190 incorporated into the material directly surrounding 503 00:23:38,190 --> 00:23:41,350 your nucleus, that's how things go really bad. 504 00:23:41,350 --> 00:23:44,070 That's why smoking's so bad. 505 00:23:44,070 --> 00:23:46,350 Did anyone end up getting into a smoke shop 506 00:23:46,350 --> 00:23:48,670 to do that measurement? 507 00:23:48,670 --> 00:23:50,670 I did check the one by my house, and they just 508 00:23:50,670 --> 00:23:53,260 put up a sign that said no one under 21. 509 00:23:53,260 --> 00:23:55,500 So you guys are right about that. 510 00:23:55,500 --> 00:23:57,210 Weird law. 511 00:23:57,210 --> 00:23:58,890 Whatever. 512 00:23:58,890 --> 00:24:01,170 Now let's look at the tissue weighting factors. 513 00:24:01,170 --> 00:24:04,320 We've talked about the factors for different types 514 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:05,370 of radiation. 515 00:24:05,370 --> 00:24:08,250 It also matters what tissue it enters. 516 00:24:08,250 --> 00:24:10,620 So for things like skin or bone surface, 517 00:24:10,620 --> 00:24:13,047 you think of these tissues as not that critical. 518 00:24:13,047 --> 00:24:14,880 If you get a scratch and you lose some skin, 519 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,690 it's not that bad for the body. 520 00:24:16,690 --> 00:24:19,170 Same thing if a little bone chip flakes off. 521 00:24:19,170 --> 00:24:21,660 You might get shin splints, but it's not so bad. 522 00:24:21,660 --> 00:24:23,570 Not for the same reason. 523 00:24:23,570 --> 00:24:27,290 These tissues aren't dividing very fast. 524 00:24:27,290 --> 00:24:29,660 The surface of your bone, the hard part, 525 00:24:29,660 --> 00:24:31,610 is basically standing still. 526 00:24:31,610 --> 00:24:34,790 It's just calcified minerals with some osteocytes trapped 527 00:24:34,790 --> 00:24:35,690 in there. 528 00:24:35,690 --> 00:24:37,310 Not much happens. 529 00:24:37,310 --> 00:24:42,350 What's happening in these tissues constantly-- 530 00:24:42,350 --> 00:24:46,333 gonads, bone marrow, colon, lung, stomach? 531 00:24:46,333 --> 00:24:47,500 AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] cells. 532 00:24:47,500 --> 00:24:48,292 MICHAEL SHORT: Yep. 533 00:24:48,292 --> 00:24:51,710 This is where stem cells and fat-- rapidly dividing cells-- 534 00:24:51,710 --> 00:24:53,640 tend to be found. 535 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,240 So there's been some theories and some papers saying 536 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,210 whatever cancer you're going to get, you probably already got 537 00:24:59,210 --> 00:25:01,460 it in the first few years of life, 538 00:25:01,460 --> 00:25:06,580 when you're just a big rolling sack of stem cells. 539 00:25:06,580 --> 00:25:09,400 This is part of why occupational hazards for infants 540 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,680 and pregnant women are much, much lower, because they 541 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,660 are giant sacks of stationary stem cells. 542 00:25:14,660 --> 00:25:16,660 And you don't want to irradiate something that's 543 00:25:16,660 --> 00:25:18,830 dividing really, really fast. 544 00:25:18,830 --> 00:25:21,480 And so the older you are, the more OK 545 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,230 it is to get more and more radiation dose, 546 00:25:23,230 --> 00:25:26,230 because a lot of these effects take a long time to manifest. 547 00:25:26,230 --> 00:25:28,330 Because they all start with a single cell. 548 00:25:28,330 --> 00:25:30,460 And it takes a long time for that single cell 549 00:25:30,460 --> 00:25:33,970 to exponentially grow and divide over a longtime scale 550 00:25:33,970 --> 00:25:36,870 into a mass that be considered a tumor. 551 00:25:36,870 --> 00:25:39,300 So it's a little worrying to think, OK, 552 00:25:39,300 --> 00:25:42,352 probably most of the cancer I'll get I got when I was five. 553 00:25:42,352 --> 00:25:44,310 But then again, it means, don't worry about it. 554 00:25:44,310 --> 00:25:47,008 What can you do? 555 00:25:47,008 --> 00:25:47,550 There's what? 556 00:25:47,550 --> 00:25:48,383 AUDIENCE: It's free. 557 00:25:48,383 --> 00:25:50,460 MICHAEL SHORT: Yeah, it's free. 558 00:25:50,460 --> 00:25:51,810 It's done. 559 00:25:51,810 --> 00:25:53,650 Not all of it. 560 00:25:53,650 --> 00:25:55,800 You can still limit your dose, because well, one, 561 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,070 any acute radiation exposure will have short term health 562 00:25:59,070 --> 00:25:59,910 effects. 563 00:25:59,910 --> 00:26:03,260 And two, your cells are still dividing. 564 00:26:03,260 --> 00:26:07,320 As we had a seminar speaker say, a biological organism 565 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,750 at static equilibrium is not very interesting. 566 00:26:09,750 --> 00:26:11,300 It's dead. 567 00:26:11,300 --> 00:26:13,070 It's not dividing anymore. 568 00:26:13,070 --> 00:26:14,930 So your cells are still dividing. 569 00:26:14,930 --> 00:26:17,180 It still means you should minimize radiation exposure. 570 00:26:17,180 --> 00:26:19,730 But a lot of what happened already happened. 571 00:26:19,730 --> 00:26:22,340 And if you can see here, the pattern 572 00:26:22,340 --> 00:26:24,890 is the more rapidly the cells are dividing, 573 00:26:24,890 --> 00:26:29,420 the more it has this tissue quality factor. 574 00:26:29,420 --> 00:26:31,820 Because the more quickly these effects 575 00:26:31,820 --> 00:26:34,640 would manifest themselves, and the more quickly the cells 576 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,360 may divide with that mutation before these cellular repair 577 00:26:38,360 --> 00:26:42,025 mechanisms fix that mutation before a division. 578 00:26:42,025 --> 00:26:43,400 We'll get into a lot of that when 579 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,890 we talk about biological effects, probably next week. 580 00:26:47,890 --> 00:26:50,340 So now, how do you do a calculation of dose 581 00:26:50,340 --> 00:26:51,750 in Sieverts? 582 00:26:51,750 --> 00:26:56,890 First you can take the dose in gray, like we have over here, 583 00:26:56,890 --> 00:26:59,680 multiply by these radiation weighting factors, 584 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,810 and you get a total amount of dose 585 00:27:01,810 --> 00:27:04,880 to that tissue, where that tissue may 586 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,270 be a certain organ, a part of your muscle, whole body 587 00:27:08,270 --> 00:27:12,340 if it was a broad blast of radiation from a bomb far away 588 00:27:12,340 --> 00:27:13,730 or something like that. 589 00:27:13,730 --> 00:27:18,480 And you get these single doses to tissue, 590 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,570 where each of these radiation equivalent factors 591 00:27:21,570 --> 00:27:24,810 can be equated to this average quality factor, where 592 00:27:24,810 --> 00:27:28,140 you integrate the quality factor as a function of length 593 00:27:28,140 --> 00:27:30,780 times the dose at that length. 594 00:27:30,780 --> 00:27:33,030 This is where the stopping power formula comes in, 595 00:27:33,030 --> 00:27:37,110 is you'll have a stopping power as the energy decreases, 596 00:27:37,110 --> 00:27:39,300 as the particle moves through the material. 597 00:27:39,300 --> 00:27:41,400 And its stopping power will change. 598 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,910 So then you have to integrate that stopping power times 599 00:27:44,910 --> 00:27:49,530 some constants and stuff over that distance times the quality 600 00:27:49,530 --> 00:27:54,410 at that distance to get the simple weighting factor. 601 00:27:54,410 --> 00:27:57,890 You then take these weighting factors, 602 00:27:57,890 --> 00:28:00,850 plug them into your dose to tissue, 603 00:28:00,850 --> 00:28:04,430 and sum up all the exposures to different tissues. 604 00:28:04,430 --> 00:28:07,420 So each tissue will have its own dose in Sieverts. 605 00:28:07,420 --> 00:28:09,790 It'll have its own tissue weighting factor. 606 00:28:09,790 --> 00:28:12,220 You sum up all the tissues exposed, 607 00:28:12,220 --> 00:28:15,220 and you get the total effective dose to the whole body. 608 00:28:15,220 --> 00:28:17,950 This means that some organs incur dose 609 00:28:17,950 --> 00:28:21,910 faster than others for the same radiation exposure. 610 00:28:21,910 --> 00:28:25,647 So the whole body dose should sum up to 1. 611 00:28:25,647 --> 00:28:27,730 And I believe-- I remember doing this calculation, 612 00:28:27,730 --> 00:28:29,790 but it may be worth your while to just try it. 613 00:28:29,790 --> 00:28:31,350 These numbers should sum up to 1, 614 00:28:31,350 --> 00:28:33,900 because all of these individual organs 615 00:28:33,900 --> 00:28:36,897 plus the remainder of your body should 616 00:28:36,897 --> 00:28:37,980 constitute the whole body. 617 00:28:41,543 --> 00:28:42,960 And so this is, in a nutshell, how 618 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,670 you do these dose calculations. 619 00:28:45,670 --> 00:28:49,030 So let's take an example from the actual reading. 620 00:28:49,030 --> 00:28:53,642 Let's say a worker gets 14 milligray of uniform whole body 621 00:28:53,642 --> 00:28:55,350 dose-- this would just be from background 622 00:28:55,350 --> 00:28:58,860 radiation, cosmic rays, food, whatever-- 623 00:28:58,860 --> 00:29:01,680 plus a targeted dose of 8 milligray 624 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:07,250 to the lung from alphas, plus 180 millgray from betas 625 00:29:07,250 --> 00:29:08,458 in the thyroid. 626 00:29:08,458 --> 00:29:10,750 Anyone know why they chose alphas in the lung and betas 627 00:29:10,750 --> 00:29:13,540 in the thyroid? 628 00:29:13,540 --> 00:29:16,312 What's the most likely sources of those? 629 00:29:16,312 --> 00:29:17,590 AUDIENCE: Iodine and nicotine. 630 00:29:17,590 --> 00:29:19,760 MICHAEL SHORT: Iodine and let's say smoking. 631 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:20,660 Yeah. 632 00:29:20,660 --> 00:29:22,630 Yeah, exactly. 633 00:29:22,630 --> 00:29:25,533 As we saw, a lot of the radon daughter products 634 00:29:25,533 --> 00:29:26,950 tend to be alpha emitters, and you 635 00:29:26,950 --> 00:29:28,690 tend to inhale those through the lungs. 636 00:29:28,690 --> 00:29:33,340 And iodine is a beta decay with about an eight day half life, 637 00:29:33,340 --> 00:29:35,800 and that gets preferentially absorbed in the thyroid. 638 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,260 So this is a pretty realistic scenario. 639 00:29:38,260 --> 00:29:43,410 And we'd say, how much effective dose did this person get? 640 00:29:43,410 --> 00:29:45,240 To do this calculation, you first-- well, 641 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,010 let's go through those steps. 642 00:29:47,010 --> 00:29:51,860 You look at the dose to each tissue times the effectiveness 643 00:29:51,860 --> 00:29:53,410 for that type of radiation. 644 00:29:53,410 --> 00:29:56,550 So the dose got 8 milligray of alphas. 645 00:29:56,550 --> 00:29:59,780 So you multiply by 20 for that quality factor. 646 00:29:59,780 --> 00:30:02,420 And the lung gets 160 millisieverts. 647 00:30:02,420 --> 00:30:05,240 You do the multiplication for the thyroid, the multiplication 648 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:06,560 for the whole body. 649 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,760 And then you do a summation of these single tissue doses 650 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:15,237 here, here, and here, times the tissue weighting factors, 651 00:30:15,237 --> 00:30:16,820 which you then look up from that table 652 00:30:16,820 --> 00:30:20,180 or calculate from the cell division rate here, here, 653 00:30:20,180 --> 00:30:21,260 and here. 654 00:30:21,260 --> 00:30:24,390 And you get a total dose of 42 millisieverts. 655 00:30:24,390 --> 00:30:26,360 So I want to point something out to you guys. 656 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,570 His thyroid got 180 millisieverts. 657 00:30:29,570 --> 00:30:32,210 He got 42 millisieverts. 658 00:30:32,210 --> 00:30:33,900 Interesting. 659 00:30:33,900 --> 00:30:36,090 Sounds a little counterintuitive. 660 00:30:36,090 --> 00:30:38,760 But in this case, these doses for each tissue 661 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,290 are calculated for that tissue. 662 00:30:41,290 --> 00:30:45,930 So if you have a probability of organ failure or mutation, 663 00:30:45,930 --> 00:30:48,120 you can now then know how much increased 664 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,160 risk he may have of thyroid cancer 665 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:56,223 specifically, or sum it up to an equivalent whole body risk. 666 00:30:56,223 --> 00:30:57,640 And it just so happens you're only 667 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,887 allowed about 50 millisieverts of exposure. 668 00:31:00,887 --> 00:31:02,470 So he'd only be allowed another eight. 669 00:31:02,470 --> 00:31:04,600 But we'll get into limits and what 670 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,460 this ICRU whatever whatever means. 671 00:31:06,460 --> 00:31:07,960 I'll actually show you the document. 672 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,760 It's also posted online. 673 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,620 This International Committee on Radiation 674 00:31:12,620 --> 00:31:15,250 U. I forget what the U is. 675 00:31:15,250 --> 00:31:17,350 But this is the whole document that 676 00:31:17,350 --> 00:31:19,810 has the basis for these recommendations, the numbers, 677 00:31:19,810 --> 00:31:21,010 and the reasons. 678 00:31:21,010 --> 00:31:24,250 And that's all online for you guys to check through. 679 00:31:24,250 --> 00:31:28,158 So anyone have any questions on a example dose calculation? 680 00:31:31,086 --> 00:31:32,070 Cool. 681 00:31:32,070 --> 00:31:34,153 Let's look at some of the ways that you'd actually 682 00:31:34,153 --> 00:31:35,620 measure dose. 683 00:31:35,620 --> 00:31:37,620 One of them we looked at the first day of class, 684 00:31:37,620 --> 00:31:39,570 the old Chadwick experiment. 685 00:31:39,570 --> 00:31:43,140 Send radiation through a fixed amount of area 686 00:31:43,140 --> 00:31:44,350 so you know the flux. 687 00:31:44,350 --> 00:31:47,520 If you know the total amount of gammas 688 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,350 is produced by this X-ray tube, you know the area, 689 00:31:50,350 --> 00:31:51,600 then you know the solid angle. 690 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:52,920 You know the flux. 691 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,890 Then you have just a free air chamber with a high voltage 692 00:31:55,890 --> 00:31:58,750 to suck up those ions before they recombine. 693 00:31:58,750 --> 00:32:03,400 And that's how you can calculate things like dose in roentgens. 694 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,470 You also have pocket versions of these things, 695 00:32:05,470 --> 00:32:08,230 sealed tubes with two electrically 696 00:32:08,230 --> 00:32:11,320 insulated electrodes. 697 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:17,230 And that cannot discharge unless ions in the gas allow them to. 698 00:32:17,230 --> 00:32:20,230 And this is the basis behind these civil defense air wall 699 00:32:20,230 --> 00:32:22,940 chambers, one of which I happen to have right here. 700 00:32:22,940 --> 00:32:24,730 So I want to pass this around and let 701 00:32:24,730 --> 00:32:26,158 you guys take a look at it. 702 00:32:26,158 --> 00:32:27,700 Like the ones you saw in the reactor, 703 00:32:27,700 --> 00:32:30,520 you can look through and see a little needle 704 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,680 that will tell you the-- 705 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,780 not dose, but the amount of ionization 706 00:32:34,780 --> 00:32:37,000 this thing has received in roentgens, 707 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:41,140 which can then be equated with some calculations 708 00:32:41,140 --> 00:32:43,060 to dose in soft tissue. 709 00:32:43,060 --> 00:32:45,670 And also there's the base for the civil defense dosimeter. 710 00:32:45,670 --> 00:32:47,920 I want to tell you guys how it works. 711 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,890 It's a battery. 712 00:32:49,890 --> 00:32:50,633 That's it. 713 00:32:50,633 --> 00:32:52,050 If you open that thing up, there's 714 00:32:52,050 --> 00:32:56,460 a couple of big T cells in there and a voltage divider. 715 00:32:56,460 --> 00:32:58,640 And you just turn the knob-- 716 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,390 which sounds complicated, all you're doing 717 00:33:00,390 --> 00:33:02,280 is turning a potentiometer-- 718 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:07,590 to decide at what voltage this wire end inside of the tube 719 00:33:07,590 --> 00:33:08,460 will be. 720 00:33:08,460 --> 00:33:10,680 And that voltage deflects the wire a little bit 721 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,710 by just coulombic attraction or repulsion, 722 00:33:13,710 --> 00:33:16,020 bends it, and gives you the dose. 723 00:33:16,020 --> 00:33:17,520 And it stays there. 724 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,970 Nothing can get in or out of that sealed chamber, 725 00:33:20,970 --> 00:33:23,830 except penetrating radiation. 726 00:33:23,830 --> 00:33:26,880 When gammas or neutrons get through, 727 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,190 they can cause ionizations in the gas. 728 00:33:29,190 --> 00:33:32,010 Those gas ions can move to these electrodes, 729 00:33:32,010 --> 00:33:36,630 partially neutralizing them, making the needle tilt a little 730 00:33:36,630 --> 00:33:38,760 farther and a little farther. 731 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,760 So the interesting thing is when that needle read 0 roentgens, 732 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,480 it's fully charged. 733 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,610 And as the detector discharges from radiation interactions, 734 00:33:47,610 --> 00:33:49,920 the needle moves higher on the roentgens scale. 735 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,420 Because you can paint whatever scale 736 00:33:51,420 --> 00:33:53,647 you want on it, as long as the physics works out. 737 00:33:53,647 --> 00:33:55,980 So it's kind of neat to think that the charge is highest 738 00:33:55,980 --> 00:33:57,820 when the dose is lowest. 739 00:33:57,820 --> 00:33:59,920 Because all the charge is doing is 740 00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:02,390 deflecting that little needle. 741 00:34:02,390 --> 00:34:04,930 Quite simple design, and quite robust. 742 00:34:04,930 --> 00:34:07,790 These things were designed by civil defense 743 00:34:07,790 --> 00:34:10,800 in case the Cold War became a hot war, 744 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,380 and they'd have to last for a very long time. 745 00:34:13,380 --> 00:34:16,010 So having had this one for about 10 years, 746 00:34:16,010 --> 00:34:19,730 I can tell you I've not yet filled the meter, which 747 00:34:19,730 --> 00:34:21,300 is probably a good thing. 748 00:34:21,300 --> 00:34:24,710 And I took that on flights across the world and hiking 749 00:34:24,710 --> 00:34:28,280 in Nepal, where the background dose was considerably higher. 750 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,580 And the needle moved like half a roentgen for the entire three 751 00:34:31,580 --> 00:34:33,969 weeks up at elevation and plane rides. 752 00:34:33,969 --> 00:34:37,300 And I got more dose on the plane ride than I did on the hike. 753 00:34:37,300 --> 00:34:40,522 Interesting fun fact. 754 00:34:40,522 --> 00:34:42,480 That's pretty much exactly what you should see. 755 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:43,907 And so Alex tells me these things 756 00:34:43,907 --> 00:34:46,449 are starting to get kind of rare on eBay, and that's a shame. 757 00:34:46,449 --> 00:34:48,940 Because this is the best possible teaching dosimeter 758 00:34:48,940 --> 00:34:49,929 there is. 759 00:34:49,929 --> 00:34:52,420 If you understand 8.02 and a little bit of radiation, 760 00:34:52,420 --> 00:34:55,475 you know how these work and can predict what the dose is 761 00:34:55,475 --> 00:34:56,350 actually going to be. 762 00:34:59,170 --> 00:35:02,660 Now, how do you do things like detect neutrons? 763 00:35:02,660 --> 00:35:06,230 If you want to detect neutrons, you want a good moderator. 764 00:35:06,230 --> 00:35:09,590 Because well moderated neutrons deposit all their energy 765 00:35:09,590 --> 00:35:12,830 in the detector instead of bouncing off, transferring 766 00:35:12,830 --> 00:35:14,360 a little energy, and leaving. 767 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,200 If you want to know how many and what energy neutrons you have, 768 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,440 you can fill a similar chamber that's got a high voltage. 769 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,240 It's got a wire on the inside. 770 00:35:23,240 --> 00:35:27,050 But instead of air or some other gas in there, 771 00:35:27,050 --> 00:35:30,410 you can fill it with things like ethylene or propylene 772 00:35:30,410 --> 00:35:35,150 or some sort of very hydrogenous hydrocarbon gas, something 773 00:35:35,150 --> 00:35:38,180 full of hydrogen to act as a good moderator. 774 00:35:38,180 --> 00:35:41,340 That hydrogen ion then becomes a proton, 775 00:35:41,340 --> 00:35:44,180 which then damages a lot of other ions, 776 00:35:44,180 --> 00:35:46,730 causing an ionization cascade, and leading 777 00:35:46,730 --> 00:35:50,285 to some current pulse, just like any other detector. 778 00:35:50,285 --> 00:35:52,160 There's going to be some movement of current, 779 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,770 which is picked up as damage. 780 00:35:55,770 --> 00:36:00,355 You might then ask also, why is that alpha source there? 781 00:36:00,355 --> 00:36:01,230 Anyone have any idea? 782 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,710 That's your calibration source. 783 00:36:10,710 --> 00:36:15,780 So as the gas in this chamber is attacked by neutrons, 784 00:36:15,780 --> 00:36:18,900 you will be blasting some of the hydrogen 785 00:36:18,900 --> 00:36:21,450 atoms out of the ethylene or propylene 786 00:36:21,450 --> 00:36:23,040 or whatever gas you have. 787 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,520 The gas will change in effectiveness over time. 788 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,550 The energy of the alpha particles will not. 789 00:36:29,550 --> 00:36:33,450 So that is your absolutely fixed energy calibration source. 790 00:36:33,450 --> 00:36:35,160 So you know exactly-- 791 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:39,600 if, let's say, 3.72 MeV alphas make a current pulse 792 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,900 of a certain height, then you can equate that 793 00:36:42,900 --> 00:36:47,610 to a 3.72 MeV neutron that would strike a hydrogen atom. 794 00:36:47,610 --> 00:36:49,330 And because the gas degrades over time, 795 00:36:49,330 --> 00:36:52,180 you have to recalibrate with that built-in alpha. 796 00:36:52,180 --> 00:36:53,980 And any sort of shutter-- 797 00:36:53,980 --> 00:36:56,530 like a little piece of foil-- will block the alpha 798 00:36:56,530 --> 00:36:59,540 so that you can use it as a neutron detector. 799 00:36:59,540 --> 00:37:01,760 Quite clever design, in my opinion. 800 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:06,245 It accounts for the degradation of the gas and the detector. 801 00:37:06,245 --> 00:37:07,870 Anyone seen one of these things before? 802 00:37:11,830 --> 00:37:14,770 Then there's the Geiger counter, which is an ionization counter 803 00:37:14,770 --> 00:37:17,260 run in avalanche mode. 804 00:37:17,260 --> 00:37:20,260 You can use these free air ionization chambers 805 00:37:20,260 --> 00:37:24,370 or other counters as an energy proportional counter, where 806 00:37:24,370 --> 00:37:28,000 a higher energy particle will impart a bigger ionization 807 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,050 cascade. 808 00:37:29,050 --> 00:37:31,780 And you can then use that to get energy resolution. 809 00:37:31,780 --> 00:37:34,210 Or you crank up the voltage like crazy, 810 00:37:34,210 --> 00:37:38,410 so that any count of any energy causes an intense ionization 811 00:37:38,410 --> 00:37:41,205 cascade and a huge current pulse. 812 00:37:41,205 --> 00:37:43,330 And this is the basis behind cheap Geiger counters, 813 00:37:43,330 --> 00:37:45,370 like the ones we build in our department. 814 00:37:45,370 --> 00:37:48,580 Those old Soviet SPM 20 tubes that 815 00:37:48,580 --> 00:37:52,240 have actually been survived being stepped on and crushed. 816 00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:54,970 As long as the electrodes don't short out, they still work. 817 00:37:54,970 --> 00:37:56,845 So there's a few folks in the department that 818 00:37:56,845 --> 00:37:58,548 have clearly bent Geiger tubes. 819 00:37:58,548 --> 00:38:00,340 One of them looks like they've been chewed, 820 00:38:00,340 --> 00:38:02,280 but they still work. 821 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,010 Because any sort of anything interacting with a gas 822 00:38:05,010 --> 00:38:07,830 will cause an ionization cascade, which is immediately 823 00:38:07,830 --> 00:38:10,590 sucked into the electrodes by a high voltage 824 00:38:10,590 --> 00:38:14,485 and collected as a current pulse 825 00:38:14,485 --> 00:38:15,860 And that's just a cutaway of what 826 00:38:15,860 --> 00:38:17,330 it looks like on the inside. 827 00:38:17,330 --> 00:38:19,520 And this is the circuit for a Geiger counter. 828 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,480 There is a voltage, a resistor, a capacitor, and a tube. 829 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,960 That's all you need. 830 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,670 Everything else in the MIT Geiger counter 831 00:38:27,670 --> 00:38:30,280 is there to make lights and sound. 832 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:31,930 It's just for fun. 833 00:38:31,930 --> 00:38:34,570 But the actual Geiger counter itself can be made incredibly . 834 00:38:34,570 --> 00:38:37,960 Compact the bigger the tube, the more radiation it 835 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,460 will catch, just because of its size 836 00:38:39,460 --> 00:38:43,090 but otherwise, as long as you get the voltage high enough 837 00:38:43,090 --> 00:38:46,210 to cause this ionization cascade, it works. 838 00:38:46,210 --> 00:38:47,335 It's really, really robust. 839 00:38:49,832 --> 00:38:51,790 So I want to skip ahead for some of that stuff, 840 00:38:51,790 --> 00:38:54,640 and then talk about how do you measure dose in humans. 841 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,150 Who here has seen one of these TLDs, or Thermoluminescent 842 00:38:58,150 --> 00:38:58,990 Dosimeters before? 843 00:38:58,990 --> 00:39:00,850 Our reactor trainees have. 844 00:39:00,850 --> 00:39:03,035 And you've worked on nuclear stuff too, right? 845 00:39:03,035 --> 00:39:03,910 AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] 846 00:39:03,910 --> 00:39:05,560 MICHAEL SHORT: You've got one in the vault. Wait, Kristen, 847 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,145 what about you, since you've worked-- 848 00:39:07,145 --> 00:39:09,456 AUDIENCE: We had one with a little crystal in it. 849 00:39:09,456 --> 00:39:11,248 MICHAEL SHORT: That's exactly what this is. 850 00:39:11,248 --> 00:39:12,467 AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] 851 00:39:12,467 --> 00:39:13,300 MICHAEL SHORT: Yeah. 852 00:39:13,300 --> 00:39:14,175 And you can shake it. 853 00:39:14,175 --> 00:39:15,287 It rattles, right? 854 00:39:15,287 --> 00:39:15,870 AUDIENCE: Yep. 855 00:39:15,870 --> 00:39:17,752 [INAUDIBLE] 856 00:39:17,752 --> 00:39:18,710 MICHAEL SHORT: Exactly. 857 00:39:18,710 --> 00:39:20,200 So this is how these work. 858 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,920 This stands for a Thermoluminescent Dosimeter. 859 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,900 And converting from Latin to English, 860 00:39:25,900 --> 00:39:29,890 that means if you heat it, it produces light proportional 861 00:39:29,890 --> 00:39:31,570 to the dose that it gets. 862 00:39:31,570 --> 00:39:34,090 So these little crystals, aluminum oxide 863 00:39:34,090 --> 00:39:37,060 or some sort of assault or whatever have you, 864 00:39:37,060 --> 00:39:43,240 something that creates permanent ionized defects, 865 00:39:43,240 --> 00:39:46,210 they will relax when you heat them, giving off light. 866 00:39:46,210 --> 00:39:48,610 And then you use a light counter to tell how much dose 867 00:39:48,610 --> 00:39:50,380 this crystal has received. 868 00:39:50,380 --> 00:39:53,890 And by putting different filters in the way for different pieces 869 00:39:53,890 --> 00:39:56,508 and looking at the light coming from different parts, 870 00:39:56,508 --> 00:39:58,050 you can tell different types of dose. 871 00:39:58,050 --> 00:40:00,700 So one works for betas, because betas 872 00:40:00,700 --> 00:40:03,130 can get through the little hole in the detector, 873 00:40:03,130 --> 00:40:06,430 whereas this may help you figure out gamma rays or neutrons 874 00:40:06,430 --> 00:40:09,440 of different energies. 875 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,830 And who here has seen one of these ring badges? 876 00:40:11,830 --> 00:40:13,790 Yeah, so again, the reactor trainees. 877 00:40:13,790 --> 00:40:14,780 Great. 878 00:40:14,780 --> 00:40:17,610 If you shake them, you hear a little rattling. 879 00:40:17,610 --> 00:40:18,900 Try it next time. 880 00:40:18,900 --> 00:40:20,460 They're usually pretty loose. 881 00:40:20,460 --> 00:40:23,040 It's a cheap plastic crappy casting 882 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,848 with a thermal luminescent crystal in the inside. 883 00:40:25,848 --> 00:40:26,640 So again, shake it. 884 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:27,960 It should rattle. 885 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,110 If it doesn't, the crystal might be missing, 886 00:40:30,110 --> 00:40:33,740 and you should probably get a new one. 887 00:40:33,740 --> 00:40:36,620 So when you read a TLD, you use this fancy machine, 888 00:40:36,620 --> 00:40:39,350 all it does is heat it very carefully, 889 00:40:39,350 --> 00:40:42,320 and allow the electrons that are trapped at a higher energy 890 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,840 to jump back down, emitting visible light. 891 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:46,340 That's it. 892 00:40:46,340 --> 00:40:48,410 We've seen this process before. 893 00:40:48,410 --> 00:40:50,810 What happens after the photoelectric effect? 894 00:40:50,810 --> 00:40:52,670 Electrons fall down an energy and release 895 00:40:52,670 --> 00:40:56,480 light in the form of X-rays or visible light. 896 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,947 Same thing. 897 00:40:58,947 --> 00:41:00,530 And then let's talk about, how can you 898 00:41:00,530 --> 00:41:03,950 use dosimeters for dosimetry in medical applications? 899 00:41:03,950 --> 00:41:06,440 And let's take the example of proton beam 900 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,800 therapy, the new and more upcoming replacement 901 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,330 to X-ray therapy. 902 00:41:11,330 --> 00:41:14,240 It relies on the fact that the stopping power of protons 903 00:41:14,240 --> 00:41:18,050 is extremely low, until they reach the end of their range, 904 00:41:18,050 --> 00:41:20,090 like we talked about here. 905 00:41:20,090 --> 00:41:23,360 So again, we use protons as armor-piercing bullets 906 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,400 to get through the person, drilling 907 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,800 a little hole in the process, and exploding 908 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,390 once they reach the tumor. 909 00:41:29,390 --> 00:41:30,680 It's a nice quirk of physics. 910 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,830 It's really an elegant use of the stuff in 22.01 911 00:41:33,830 --> 00:41:36,840 to do damage where you want it to. 912 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,872 There's all sorts of other methods of cancer treatment. 913 00:41:39,872 --> 00:41:41,580 Let's say you're simple, and you can just 914 00:41:41,580 --> 00:41:43,680 go with excision, which means cutting it out. 915 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,900 Chemotherapy, which is a pretty nasty process, 916 00:41:45,900 --> 00:41:49,200 and is usually used as a backup for radiation therapy 917 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,620 to catch whatever else might be floating. 918 00:41:51,620 --> 00:41:55,920 X-ray therapy, which is still used a lot, but hopefully 919 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,480 will get phased out a bit. 920 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,710 Brachytherapy, where you implant a little seed of a beta 921 00:42:01,710 --> 00:42:05,100 emitter into an area near where the tumor is. 922 00:42:05,100 --> 00:42:08,685 Let's say you have an easy route of entry, like that way. 923 00:42:08,685 --> 00:42:10,560 Then you can implant one of these seeds right 924 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:11,430 where the tumor is. 925 00:42:11,430 --> 00:42:14,110 But if you can't have an easy route of entry, 926 00:42:14,110 --> 00:42:18,043 that's where proton therapy comes in. 927 00:42:18,043 --> 00:42:19,710 And as we've talked about X-ray therapy, 928 00:42:19,710 --> 00:42:23,700 if you want to damage the tumor more than the rest of the brain 929 00:42:23,700 --> 00:42:25,320 or the rest of the person, you have 930 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,300 to come in from different angles so 931 00:42:27,300 --> 00:42:29,400 that the sum of all the dose to this target 932 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,570 is less than anywhere else. 933 00:42:31,570 --> 00:42:34,560 And X-ray therapy tends to do a lot of damage. 934 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,530 Well, you hear of X-ray therapy causing hair loss in people. 935 00:42:37,530 --> 00:42:39,760 Well, yeah. 936 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,160 You're going through the head. 937 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:45,150 It's not good for your hair follicles, either. 938 00:42:45,150 --> 00:42:46,560 And then there's proton therapy. 939 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,270 We've talked about it before, but not 940 00:42:48,270 --> 00:42:49,740 in the strict medical sense. 941 00:42:49,740 --> 00:42:51,720 And actually I'm going to reveal to you guys 942 00:42:51,720 --> 00:42:54,390 an invention that we've got out of our department that might 943 00:42:54,390 --> 00:42:55,903 help this go a little better. 944 00:42:55,903 --> 00:42:58,320 The way it works is you start with a cyclotron, which I've 945 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,195 already explained, something that accelerates 946 00:43:00,195 --> 00:43:03,175 charged particles to about 250 MeV. 947 00:43:03,175 --> 00:43:05,550 And we have one of these across the river at Mass General 948 00:43:05,550 --> 00:43:06,980 Hospital. 949 00:43:06,980 --> 00:43:09,740 Send them through bending magnets, 950 00:43:09,740 --> 00:43:12,600 and bend them up so that they hit the patient. 951 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:16,400 Then you move the patient on this gurney or table 952 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,040 so that-- and the entryf can rotate anywhere, 953 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,930 to come in from any entry point, minimize 954 00:43:20,930 --> 00:43:22,880 the dose to the rest of the patient, 955 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,300 while frying the tumor. 956 00:43:24,300 --> 00:43:26,760 AUDIENCE: Is that a scale diagram? 957 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,304 MICHAEL SHORT: Yep, quite big. 958 00:43:29,304 --> 00:43:32,290 Yeah. 959 00:43:32,290 --> 00:43:34,870 It's pretty to scale, yeah. 960 00:43:34,870 --> 00:43:38,630 So time on this instrument runs in the thousands per hour. 961 00:43:38,630 --> 00:43:40,960 If you go through the back door and know the folks that 962 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,640 run the thing and no one is not being 963 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:43,907 used for cancer treatments. 964 00:43:43,907 --> 00:43:45,490 Proton therapy can run in the hundreds 965 00:43:45,490 --> 00:43:46,490 of thousands of dollars. 966 00:43:46,490 --> 00:43:48,073 This is one of the millions of reasons 967 00:43:48,073 --> 00:43:49,375 we have medical insurance. 968 00:43:49,375 --> 00:43:51,490 It's because when you need it, you want it. 969 00:43:51,490 --> 00:43:55,280 And these cyclotrons aren't cheap. 970 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:56,780 The way they work is pretty simple. 971 00:43:56,780 --> 00:44:00,770 You inject ionized particles through these D magnets, 972 00:44:00,770 --> 00:44:04,070 and they go faster and faster and faster every time they 973 00:44:04,070 --> 00:44:05,960 cross this electric field. 974 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,630 They bend at larger and larger tracks 975 00:44:08,630 --> 00:44:10,930 through these magnets as their energy increases. 976 00:44:10,930 --> 00:44:13,280 Than they exit out the other side, getting 977 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,780 delivered to the patient. 978 00:44:16,780 --> 00:44:18,470 And why protons versus X-rays? 979 00:44:18,470 --> 00:44:20,870 Well, I made it quick Desmos graph. 980 00:44:20,870 --> 00:44:22,280 To say, let's say you started off 981 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,430 with a equivalent dose of protons and X-rays, 982 00:44:25,430 --> 00:44:28,680 and you're trying to get to a 40 millimeter deep tumor. 983 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:29,680 This is why. 984 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,430 This is the amount of dose that the X-rays 985 00:44:31,430 --> 00:44:33,710 would give compared to the protons 986 00:44:33,710 --> 00:44:36,277 in this highlighted tumor region. 987 00:44:36,277 --> 00:44:38,360 Then you look at the dose where X-rays and protons 988 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:39,652 give to the rest of the person. 989 00:44:39,652 --> 00:44:43,390 It should be graphically obvious. 990 00:44:43,390 --> 00:44:45,540 And you can do some tricks with proton therapy. 991 00:44:45,540 --> 00:44:49,320 If you have a lung tumor, you can vary the energy and time 992 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,320 at each point, such that you give a uniform dose 993 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:53,370 to the tumor. 994 00:44:53,370 --> 00:44:54,960 So you can move that [? Bragg ?] peak 995 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:59,040 by degrading the proton energy, by putting filters in line 996 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:00,090 with the beam. 997 00:45:00,090 --> 00:45:02,620 You don't tend to like to change the energy of the beam. 998 00:45:02,620 --> 00:45:04,710 So you can put things in the way of the protons 999 00:45:04,710 --> 00:45:06,270 to slow them down. 1000 00:45:06,270 --> 00:45:08,940 And because when the stopping power is very low, 1001 00:45:08,940 --> 00:45:11,760 the proton speed's very high, and forward scattering 1002 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,490 is preferable, putting things in the way of the beam 1003 00:45:14,490 --> 00:45:16,290 pretty much just slows them down, 1004 00:45:16,290 --> 00:45:19,112 but doesn't change their direction. 1005 00:45:19,112 --> 00:45:21,320 That assumption breaks down when the energy gets low. 1006 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,240 But when the energy gets low, you better be in the tumor 1007 00:45:23,240 --> 00:45:23,910 anyway. 1008 00:45:23,910 --> 00:45:26,780 And you want them to change direction and explode out 1009 00:45:26,780 --> 00:45:30,350 and blast everything in sight. 1010 00:45:30,350 --> 00:45:33,230 The problem with proton therapy is 1011 00:45:33,230 --> 00:45:35,630 that humans are not biological organisms 1012 00:45:35,630 --> 00:45:37,820 at static equilibrium. 1013 00:45:37,820 --> 00:45:39,190 In other words, they're alive. 1014 00:45:39,190 --> 00:45:40,690 They tend to move. 1015 00:45:40,690 --> 00:45:43,720 Breathing is something I like to do every few seconds. 1016 00:45:43,720 --> 00:45:46,170 Swallowing, maybe once every couple of minutes. 1017 00:45:46,170 --> 00:45:47,830 And most of your organs move around 1018 00:45:47,830 --> 00:45:50,343 and dance without you controlling them. 1019 00:45:50,343 --> 00:45:52,010 It's really hard if you're trying to hit 1020 00:45:52,010 --> 00:45:54,350 a tumor on a moving target. 1021 00:45:54,350 --> 00:45:57,300 That is the main problem with proton therapy. 1022 00:45:57,300 --> 00:46:00,710 The solution right now, I like to call it spray and pray. 1023 00:46:00,710 --> 00:46:03,870 You fire into the person, hope that things don't move. 1024 00:46:03,870 --> 00:46:05,350 We know that they do though. 1025 00:46:05,350 --> 00:46:07,580 Those proton beams are very narrow. 1026 00:46:07,580 --> 00:46:10,010 And let's say, for abdominal patients, 1027 00:46:10,010 --> 00:46:12,080 let's say you happen to be digesting something. 1028 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,750 Your intestines will just go krschlock like that 1029 00:46:14,750 --> 00:46:16,617 and get lunch where it's going. 1030 00:46:16,617 --> 00:46:18,200 This is one of those reasons that they 1031 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,050 say don't eat anything before these procedures. 1032 00:46:21,050 --> 00:46:23,510 If you're not actively digesting things, 1033 00:46:23,510 --> 00:46:26,460 then your abdomen won't be moving as much. 1034 00:46:26,460 --> 00:46:29,960 Thoracic patients, better known as the lungs or your thorax, 1035 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:31,760 if you're from France. 1036 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:32,760 My wife likes to make-- 1037 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,010 I like to make fun of my wife. 1038 00:46:34,010 --> 00:46:34,552 That's right. 1039 00:46:34,552 --> 00:46:36,920 Because she still refers to this region as the thorax. 1040 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,230 And I was like, I am not a giant beetle. 1041 00:46:39,230 --> 00:46:41,930 But it is the medical term for this. 1042 00:46:41,930 --> 00:46:43,550 You tend to breathe. 1043 00:46:43,550 --> 00:46:45,240 And if you actually measure how much 1044 00:46:45,240 --> 00:46:47,000 you move when you breathe in and out-- 1045 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,833 let's say you're trying to fry a lung tumor. 1046 00:46:48,833 --> 00:46:50,300 That's a tricky proposition. 1047 00:46:50,300 --> 00:46:53,550 So how do you keep the protons on track? 1048 00:46:53,550 --> 00:46:56,910 Ideally, some dosimeter would be able to determine 1049 00:46:56,910 --> 00:47:01,110 absolute dose, and it would be able to-- 1050 00:47:01,110 --> 00:47:04,320 where on this list of things is-- 1051 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,540 oh, there's even more things I'd want here. 1052 00:47:06,540 --> 00:47:08,430 So ideally, if you'd want a proton dosimeter, 1053 00:47:08,430 --> 00:47:10,950 you want it to be able to measure things, provide 1054 00:47:10,950 --> 00:47:16,050 some data, not be orientation dependent, and things like not 1055 00:47:16,050 --> 00:47:18,600 be toxic, be cheap to build, but also 1056 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:22,380 be able to turn on and off if the tumor moves out of range. 1057 00:47:22,380 --> 00:47:25,330 And this problem hasn't been solved yet. 1058 00:47:25,330 --> 00:47:28,060 Existing dosimetry methods include 1059 00:47:28,060 --> 00:47:31,480 making calculations and hoping, which is what we do now. 1060 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,760 We do complex Monte Carlo calculations 1061 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,980 based on scans of the patient, try 1062 00:47:35,980 --> 00:47:38,000 and map out how much energy is going to be lost 1063 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,280 and where to go in. 1064 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:40,930 There's conventional port films, which 1065 00:47:40,930 --> 00:47:44,080 means you put a film on the entry of the patient, which 1066 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,390 gives you an idea of where the beam is, but not 1067 00:47:46,390 --> 00:47:47,965 necessarily where the organ is. 1068 00:47:47,965 --> 00:47:49,840 Let me get into some pictures of these things 1069 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,310 so you know what they look like. 1070 00:47:51,310 --> 00:47:54,660 Anyone ever put one of these in your mouth before? 1071 00:47:54,660 --> 00:47:57,370 The sort of electronic dosimeters, the X-ray 1072 00:47:57,370 --> 00:47:58,870 imagers that you get at the dentist, 1073 00:47:58,870 --> 00:48:00,850 you bite down on one of these, and you 1074 00:48:00,850 --> 00:48:02,260 get X-rays of your teeth. 1075 00:48:02,260 --> 00:48:04,210 That's great if you have a place to put them, 1076 00:48:04,210 --> 00:48:06,790 but doesn't quite work for proton therapy. 1077 00:48:06,790 --> 00:48:08,290 There are tissue equivalent gels, 1078 00:48:08,290 --> 00:48:12,700 where you can cast a person in gel, fire in the proton beam, 1079 00:48:12,700 --> 00:48:14,495 and see how deep it goes, and then 1080 00:48:14,495 --> 00:48:16,120 hope that your tissue equivalent gel is 1081 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:17,950 equivalent to the tissue. 1082 00:48:17,950 --> 00:48:20,680 Usually it's pretty good. 1083 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:21,790 There's silicon diodes. 1084 00:48:21,790 --> 00:48:26,080 You can implant a tiny little diode or other semiconductor 1085 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,930 device near or in the patient, and measure 1086 00:48:28,930 --> 00:48:31,660 the change in band gap, or the voltage 1087 00:48:31,660 --> 00:48:35,350 required to turn on conduction in the semiconductor. 1088 00:48:35,350 --> 00:48:37,470 The problem is you can only use them once. 1089 00:48:37,470 --> 00:48:40,113 Once you irradiate a piece of silicon, it's irradiated. 1090 00:48:40,113 --> 00:48:41,530 And then you would have to take it 1091 00:48:41,530 --> 00:48:44,800 out and stick another one in with a big needle 1092 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,830 to keep going. 1093 00:48:47,830 --> 00:48:49,930 There's optically stimulated luminescence, 1094 00:48:49,930 --> 00:48:51,430 which means protons hit stuff. 1095 00:48:51,430 --> 00:48:52,870 Stuff creates light. 1096 00:48:52,870 --> 00:48:54,760 Light can be measured in real time. 1097 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:59,190 So you could implant a little crystal like this TLD 1098 00:48:59,190 --> 00:49:01,090 or Thermoluminescent Dosimeter, attached 1099 00:49:01,090 --> 00:49:03,250 to a fiber optic cable. 1100 00:49:03,250 --> 00:49:06,220 And in that way, you can measure the amount of light 1101 00:49:06,220 --> 00:49:07,390 and preamplify it. 1102 00:49:07,390 --> 00:49:09,190 PM means-- what is it-- 1103 00:49:09,190 --> 00:49:11,110 Photo Multiplier tube. 1104 00:49:11,110 --> 00:49:14,320 And use electronics and software to calculate that light 1105 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,090 and turn it into dose. 1106 00:49:16,090 --> 00:49:19,690 Problem is, this scintillation, it's not very strong. 1107 00:49:19,690 --> 00:49:22,090 There's a lot that can go wrong between where 1108 00:49:22,090 --> 00:49:26,860 the radiation is done and where it can be collected. 1109 00:49:26,860 --> 00:49:30,700 Also implanted MOSFETs are these metal oxide semiconductor 1110 00:49:30,700 --> 00:49:32,650 field effect transistors. 1111 00:49:32,650 --> 00:49:33,850 Same problem. 1112 00:49:33,850 --> 00:49:37,035 You can look at the change in difference-- 1113 00:49:37,035 --> 00:49:38,410 I'm sorry, the change in band gap 1114 00:49:38,410 --> 00:49:40,997 as you irradiate these things, or in the MOSFET voltage. 1115 00:49:40,997 --> 00:49:42,580 But again, you can only use them once. 1116 00:49:42,580 --> 00:49:45,025 It's not like you can reset them. 1117 00:49:45,025 --> 00:49:46,400 So the problems with all of these 1118 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,957 is we don't know what dose the tumor gets. 1119 00:49:48,957 --> 00:49:50,540 If we know how much we need to fry it, 1120 00:49:50,540 --> 00:49:53,810 but we don't know if we fried it, the cancer could recur. 1121 00:49:53,810 --> 00:49:56,360 Or it may not respond to the radiation. 1122 00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,090 These are liability terms to say it didn't work, 1123 00:49:59,090 --> 00:50:01,580 but you can't sue us, because we don't know why. 1124 00:50:01,580 --> 00:50:02,960 And you don't know why. 1125 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,170 Or you may apply too much dose to the surrounding tissue 1126 00:50:06,170 --> 00:50:08,360 and induce secondary tumors. 1127 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,550 This is one of those things that's not talked about 1128 00:50:10,550 --> 00:50:12,440 very much, except in medical circles, 1129 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,627 and my entire family happens to be in medical circles. 1130 00:50:15,627 --> 00:50:17,210 So they confirmed, yeah, this is true. 1131 00:50:17,210 --> 00:50:20,460 We don't know how many times, if you treat a tumor, 1132 00:50:20,460 --> 00:50:22,040 or do you induce another one that 1133 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,740 will pop up five years later in the same site. 1134 00:50:24,740 --> 00:50:28,100 All you may think is, OK, it recurred, despite being 1135 00:50:28,100 --> 00:50:29,285 dead for five years. 1136 00:50:29,285 --> 00:50:30,410 It might not have recurred. 1137 00:50:30,410 --> 00:50:33,030 It might have made a new one. 1138 00:50:33,030 --> 00:50:35,590 You don't know the dose rate versus time. 1139 00:50:35,590 --> 00:50:39,630 The existing in situ methods haven't worked very well. 1140 00:50:39,630 --> 00:50:41,040 So we had another idea, that I'll 1141 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,110 go in the last negative 1 minutes, 1142 00:50:43,110 --> 00:50:46,680 what we call the integrating F-Center Feedback Dosimeter. 1143 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,290 We just got the patent filed on this. 1144 00:50:49,290 --> 00:50:51,990 Not accepted, but filed with the US Patent Office. 1145 00:50:51,990 --> 00:50:53,490 It's pretty simple. 1146 00:50:53,490 --> 00:50:57,270 You send in calibrated light into a little crystal 1147 00:50:57,270 --> 00:51:01,470 of something that creates these color centers, or F-centers. 1148 00:51:01,470 --> 00:51:03,930 When it's irradiated, look at the light coming out. 1149 00:51:03,930 --> 00:51:05,130 See what's absorbed. 1150 00:51:05,130 --> 00:51:08,310 You know how much dose you've received. 1151 00:51:08,310 --> 00:51:10,650 And so look at these three parts. 1152 00:51:10,650 --> 00:51:13,420 A is just an alkali halide salt, better known 1153 00:51:13,420 --> 00:51:15,490 as table salt, sodium chloride. 1154 00:51:15,490 --> 00:51:19,090 B is some biocompatible casing so your body doesn't reject it. 1155 00:51:19,090 --> 00:51:23,140 Calibrated white light source, fiber optic connection cables, 1156 00:51:23,140 --> 00:51:24,910 and a spectrometer to read the absorption. 1157 00:51:24,910 --> 00:51:28,180 These can be little compact USB spectrometers. 1158 00:51:28,180 --> 00:51:30,310 And it relies on what's called F-centers. 1159 00:51:30,310 --> 00:51:34,060 When you irradiate ionic materials, they change color. 1160 00:51:34,060 --> 00:51:36,910 These defects produced by, let's say, blasting out 1161 00:51:36,910 --> 00:51:39,730 a chlorine ion or a sodium or potassium ion 1162 00:51:39,730 --> 00:51:41,310 are optically active. 1163 00:51:41,310 --> 00:51:44,260 Because you get differing regions of electron density. 1164 00:51:44,260 --> 00:51:46,600 And you absorb certain wavelengths of light 1165 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:47,950 changing their color. 1166 00:51:47,950 --> 00:51:49,960 If you then send calibrated light through it, 1167 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:53,150 you can tell what happened, how much dose there was. 1168 00:51:53,150 --> 00:51:55,140 And F-center creation versus radiation 1169 00:51:55,140 --> 00:51:57,000 is extremely well known. 1170 00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,610 We've actually done some preliminary tests on the Dante 1171 00:51:59,610 --> 00:52:02,610 accelerator here to show that the amount of dose that you 1172 00:52:02,610 --> 00:52:05,670 give in a fractional cancer treatment on the order 1173 00:52:05,670 --> 00:52:09,690 of a kilogray or so does cause the salt to respond very 1174 00:52:09,690 --> 00:52:11,460 strongly and produce a color. 1175 00:52:11,460 --> 00:52:13,770 And the best part is, they relax on their own. 1176 00:52:13,770 --> 00:52:16,290 After anywhere from 5 seconds to a few hours, 1177 00:52:16,290 --> 00:52:17,970 the color just disappears. 1178 00:52:17,970 --> 00:52:19,380 Because the atomic defects relax. 1179 00:52:19,380 --> 00:52:24,370 So you don't have to implant, remove, reimplant, remove. 1180 00:52:24,370 --> 00:52:26,590 And you can enable dose rate information 1181 00:52:26,590 --> 00:52:28,330 by putting multiple salts in a row that 1182 00:52:28,330 --> 00:52:31,600 have different response levels to these protons. 1183 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,840 So by looking at the amount of absorption in each wavelength, 1184 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,210 you can tell not just the dose, but the dose rate. 1185 00:52:37,210 --> 00:52:40,557 Calibrate your beam current. 1186 00:52:40,557 --> 00:52:42,390 And I'm going to skip all the way to the end 1187 00:52:42,390 --> 00:52:43,780 to say how this would work. 1188 00:52:43,780 --> 00:52:47,160 So let's say you had one of these IF2D dosimeters implanted 1189 00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,530 in your tumor, and your heart was beating, 1190 00:52:49,530 --> 00:52:52,530 or your lungs were breathing, or you were digesting something. 1191 00:52:52,530 --> 00:52:54,300 You could then feedback this information 1192 00:52:54,300 --> 00:52:56,910 to the proton accelerator to shut the beam off 1193 00:52:56,910 --> 00:52:59,010 when the tumor moves out of range 1194 00:52:59,010 --> 00:53:02,560 and send in tiny little pulses to say, hey, are you there? 1195 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:06,930 Little micro second pulses to say, microsecond of protons 1196 00:53:06,930 --> 00:53:08,230 isn't going to do much. 1197 00:53:08,230 --> 00:53:12,310 But if it senses the IF2D back in range, 1198 00:53:12,310 --> 00:53:14,440 it then blasts continuously. 1199 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,430 And as soon as the IF2D says no more dose, 1200 00:53:17,430 --> 00:53:20,340 it starts just putting those wake up pulses back on. 1201 00:53:20,340 --> 00:53:22,560 So this would be the first feedback way 1202 00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,860 to apply proton therapy without screwing it up. 1203 00:53:25,860 --> 00:53:28,890 You could also install IF2D dosimeters 1204 00:53:28,890 --> 00:53:32,490 near the tumor, outside the tumor, 1205 00:53:32,490 --> 00:53:35,490 and play the world's first game of radioactive proton 1206 00:53:35,490 --> 00:53:36,630 Operation. 1207 00:53:36,630 --> 00:53:38,580 Don't hit the sides. 1208 00:53:38,580 --> 00:53:40,620 If you wonder if your beam's on target, 1209 00:53:40,620 --> 00:53:43,260 you then steer it until it doesn't hit any of the IF2Ds, 1210 00:53:43,260 --> 00:53:45,930 and you know you're right through the gates on the tumor. 1211 00:53:45,930 --> 00:53:48,390 Very important for certain sensitive tumors, 1212 00:53:48,390 --> 00:53:50,760 like chordomas, spinal cord tumors, 1213 00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:55,650 which tend to happen in infants and young children. 1214 00:53:55,650 --> 00:53:57,810 There's various ways of treating those, 1215 00:53:57,810 --> 00:54:00,930 other than removal of the neck, what you don't want to do. 1216 00:54:00,930 --> 00:54:02,912 They're extremely difficult to operate on. 1217 00:54:02,912 --> 00:54:04,620 You don't want to give radiation therapy. 1218 00:54:04,620 --> 00:54:07,050 So highly targeted proton therapy 1219 00:54:07,050 --> 00:54:08,910 like this, making sure that you fry 1220 00:54:08,910 --> 00:54:10,560 the tumor without the surrounding 1221 00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,740 spinal cord and medulla, would be probably 1222 00:54:13,740 --> 00:54:15,770 the way to go for this. 1223 00:54:15,770 --> 00:54:18,060 So I'm going to stop there, because it's exactly 10. 1224 00:54:18,060 --> 00:54:20,000 It's also the perfect stopping point. 1225 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:24,138 And we'll pick up with background radiation tomorrow. 1226 00:54:24,138 --> 00:54:25,930 I also want to let you guys know that we'll 1227 00:54:25,930 --> 00:54:30,550 be doing our nuclear activation analysis irradiations Friday 1228 00:54:30,550 --> 00:54:33,910 at the beginning of recitation, and we'll finish up recitation 1229 00:54:33,910 --> 00:54:36,360 by doing the exam review.