1 00:00:00,918 --> 00:00:03,460 ANNOUNCER: The following content is provided under a Creative 2 00:00:03,460 --> 00:00:04,850 Commons license. 3 00:00:04,850 --> 00:00:07,060 Your support will help MIT OpenCourseWare 4 00:00:07,060 --> 00:00:11,150 continue to offer high quality educational resources for free. 5 00:00:11,150 --> 00:00:13,690 To make a donation or to view additional materials 6 00:00:13,690 --> 00:00:17,650 from hundreds of MIT courses, visit MIT OpenCourseWare 7 00:00:17,650 --> 00:00:18,550 at ocw.mit.edu. 8 00:00:22,324 --> 00:00:23,620 MICHAEL SHORT: Hey guys. 9 00:00:23,620 --> 00:00:26,440 So quick announcement, we're not doing nuclear activation 10 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,870 analysis today, because the valve that 11 00:00:28,870 --> 00:00:30,640 shoots the rabbits into the reactor 12 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:32,350 broke and needs to be repaired. 13 00:00:32,350 --> 00:00:34,410 So we'll likely just do this next Friday. 14 00:00:34,410 --> 00:00:36,370 And instead, we'll have the whole recitation 15 00:00:36,370 --> 00:00:37,880 for exam review, like I think we'd 16 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,018 originally, originally planned. 17 00:00:40,018 --> 00:00:42,310 I also want to say thanks to whoever said, please write 18 00:00:42,310 --> 00:00:43,720 lecture notes for this class. 19 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:45,850 It's something I think needs to be done. 20 00:00:45,850 --> 00:00:48,040 And I just now biked back from meeting 21 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,140 with a publisher, or a potential publisher, 22 00:00:50,140 --> 00:00:51,802 to actually get this done. 23 00:00:51,802 --> 00:00:53,510 Because as I think as you guys have seen, 24 00:00:53,510 --> 00:00:55,718 there's no one reading that does this course justice. 25 00:00:55,718 --> 00:00:57,093 There are some that are too easy, 26 00:00:57,093 --> 00:00:58,480 there are some that are too hard. 27 00:00:58,480 --> 00:00:59,950 And there are giant pieces missing, 28 00:00:59,950 --> 00:01:02,350 like most of what we're going to go into today-- 29 00:01:02,350 --> 00:01:03,700 sources of background radiation. 30 00:01:03,700 --> 00:01:06,640 And where do cosmic rays come from, and what are they? 31 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,160 So thanks to whoever said that, because it spurred me off 32 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,145 on a let's make this into a book kind of thing. 33 00:01:12,145 --> 00:01:14,020 Want to quickly review what we did last time. 34 00:01:14,020 --> 00:01:17,290 We went over all the different units of dose and radiation 35 00:01:17,290 --> 00:01:19,510 exposure, from the roentgen-- 36 00:01:19,510 --> 00:01:23,140 which is pretty much just valid for those measurements in air. 37 00:01:23,140 --> 00:01:27,370 And I realized that yesterday I brought in the civil defense 38 00:01:27,370 --> 00:01:29,830 dosimeter and passed it to one person, 39 00:01:29,830 --> 00:01:31,330 and we didn't continue bringing it. 40 00:01:31,330 --> 00:01:32,980 So I'll bring it to recitation. 41 00:01:32,980 --> 00:01:34,620 It's not in my bag. 42 00:01:34,620 --> 00:01:36,220 There is the unit of the gray, which 43 00:01:36,220 --> 00:01:38,038 is just joules per kilogram. 44 00:01:38,038 --> 00:01:39,580 Which you can calculate from stopping 45 00:01:39,580 --> 00:01:43,240 power or exponential attenuation equations. 46 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:44,860 This is where you start, because it's 47 00:01:44,860 --> 00:01:46,870 how you get from the world of physics 48 00:01:46,870 --> 00:01:48,610 to the world of biology. 49 00:01:48,610 --> 00:01:52,570 Into units of increased risk, or sieverts, 50 00:01:52,570 --> 00:01:56,290 which is just gray times a bunch of quality factors, which 51 00:01:56,290 --> 00:01:59,170 are either tabulated, or I'd like to see somewhat better 52 00:01:59,170 --> 00:02:00,580 calculated. 53 00:02:00,580 --> 00:02:04,240 They are calculated sometimes, but by empirical relations, 54 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,160 because that's usually good enough. 55 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,080 Biomeasurements tend to be pretty sloppy, 56 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,780 and I'm not that upset that these are empirical relations. 57 00:02:13,860 --> 00:02:17,350 I'm going to skip way ahead past the detector stuff. 58 00:02:17,350 --> 00:02:21,370 We didn't quite finish up the IF2D idea. 59 00:02:21,370 --> 00:02:23,740 I think this is where we ended last time, where 60 00:02:23,740 --> 00:02:26,170 we were talking about how do you detect dose 61 00:02:26,170 --> 00:02:27,760 during cancer treatment. 62 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,030 And I was outlining one proposed way that we're thinking of. 63 00:02:31,030 --> 00:02:34,150 Using this F-center based dosimeter, 64 00:02:34,150 --> 00:02:36,550 which changes color when it gets irradiated, 65 00:02:36,550 --> 00:02:37,990 you can implant it in the tumor. 66 00:02:37,990 --> 00:02:41,200 And as it moves from things like breathing or swallowing, 67 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:42,970 you could feedback to the proton beam, 68 00:02:42,970 --> 00:02:45,100 and only irradiate when it's in range. 69 00:02:45,100 --> 00:02:48,800 Or play nuclear operation, and try not to hit the sides. 70 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,170 However, whatever you want to do. 71 00:02:51,170 --> 00:02:53,520 And there's multiple implantation options for this. 72 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:57,510 We've thought about things like implanting a fiber optic 73 00:02:57,510 --> 00:03:00,000 cable into the tumor, and then having a port 74 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,220 on the side of you that could do some in body spectrometry, 75 00:03:03,220 --> 00:03:04,470 which would be pretty cool. 76 00:03:04,470 --> 00:03:06,120 Could also put it all in a chip. 77 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:07,830 You could have the emitter-- 78 00:03:07,830 --> 00:03:10,440 either a broadband or single color LED-- 79 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,540 the F-center, and the spectrometer all in a chip 80 00:03:12,540 --> 00:03:13,680 that's implanted. 81 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,868 And with radio frequency power transfer, 82 00:03:16,868 --> 00:03:18,660 so you don't need to put a fiber optic port 83 00:03:18,660 --> 00:03:20,520 and plug it into the side of you. 84 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,790 Or however it goes. 85 00:03:23,790 --> 00:03:25,960 And what we're doing next in this development 86 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,150 is nailing down what color change is given by what dose-- 87 00:03:29,150 --> 00:03:30,490 so the physics. 88 00:03:30,490 --> 00:03:32,500 Develop an on-chip version. 89 00:03:32,500 --> 00:03:35,620 Find a bio-compatible casing. 90 00:03:35,620 --> 00:03:39,160 We've done the IP part, which is pretty cool. 91 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,320 As you can see with patent office at least 92 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:42,983 has taken in the application. 93 00:03:42,983 --> 00:03:45,400 But it's neat that you need to know pretty much everything 94 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,525 you learned at MIT to pull off a project like this. 95 00:03:47,525 --> 00:03:50,140 From the nuclear physics stuff, to the material science, 96 00:03:50,140 --> 00:03:54,340 to the 22.071 electronics, to the medical stuff for biology, 97 00:03:54,340 --> 00:03:56,620 to the financial stuff for econ. 98 00:03:56,620 --> 00:03:58,700 In order to pull off an actual nuclear start 99 00:03:58,700 --> 00:04:01,075 up project like this, you need everything you learn here. 100 00:04:01,075 --> 00:04:03,720 Which is kind of a neat case study. 101 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,980 But now let's get back into what does a sievert really mean 102 00:04:06,980 --> 00:04:09,080 in terms of increased risk? 103 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,810 Usually means the increased risk of some sort 104 00:04:11,810 --> 00:04:15,650 of long-term biological effect, whether it's cancer 105 00:04:15,650 --> 00:04:18,740 or some other genetic effects-- let's say mutations-- 106 00:04:18,740 --> 00:04:21,320 anything that would take a while to manifest, 107 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,760 and would manifest by slow but steady cell division. 108 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,200 And if you notice the difference between adults 109 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:29,730 and whole population, let's see-- 110 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,240 yeah, sorry. 111 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:37,710 You can see right here that these-- 112 00:04:37,710 --> 00:04:39,330 not very much dose. 113 00:04:39,330 --> 00:04:41,250 Let's say in the realm of 10 to the minus 2 114 00:04:41,250 --> 00:04:44,430 sieverts can give you some increased risk for cancer 115 00:04:44,430 --> 00:04:45,720 or some other effect. 116 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,110 So we're talking on the realm of 40 millisieverts 117 00:04:49,110 --> 00:04:51,700 or so would give you some additional cancer risk. 118 00:04:51,700 --> 00:04:53,400 That's not a lot of dose. 119 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,920 That's up to about the limit of the occupational dose 120 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,528 that you're allowed. 121 00:04:57,528 --> 00:04:59,320 So when we talk about how much is too much, 122 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,340 I've taken some excerpts from this Committee 123 00:05:02,340 --> 00:05:04,650 on Radiation Protection document. 124 00:05:04,650 --> 00:05:06,720 This is from Turner, but the entire document, 125 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,240 as I mentioned, is up on the learning module site. 126 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:13,050 So you guys can see the actual verbiage where this is defined. 127 00:05:13,050 --> 00:05:15,000 So your lifetime dose should never 128 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:19,440 exceed in tens of millisieverts the value of age in years. 129 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,960 Which means in some years if you get a little bit less dose, 130 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,820 you can get a little bit more dose 131 00:05:23,820 --> 00:05:25,410 and still be considered safe or not 132 00:05:25,410 --> 00:05:28,680 have any appreciable increased risk. 133 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,810 And while you're working, you should never 134 00:05:30,810 --> 00:05:34,920 get more than about 50 millisieverts in a given year. 135 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:36,360 How was it for radiation workers? 136 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,263 So for you guys, what dose are you 137 00:05:38,263 --> 00:05:39,930 allowed per year working at the reactor? 138 00:05:39,930 --> 00:05:41,895 AUDIENCE: About five rem per year. 139 00:05:41,895 --> 00:05:43,270 MICHAEL SHORT: Five rem per year, 140 00:05:43,270 --> 00:05:46,040 which is 50 millisieverts. 141 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:46,790 Awesome, so it's-- 142 00:05:46,790 --> 00:05:49,416 AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] to your eyes [INAUDIBLE].. 143 00:05:51,912 --> 00:05:53,120 MICHAEL SHORT: Oh sure, yeah. 144 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,620 To jump back to that, if you're saying that there's actually 145 00:05:55,620 --> 00:06:00,170 tabulated differences for different organs, 146 00:06:00,170 --> 00:06:02,480 that's where they come from. 147 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,030 Let's say you can take less radiation to the same organ 148 00:06:05,030 --> 00:06:07,550 and get the same dose in sieverts 149 00:06:07,550 --> 00:06:08,900 measured in equivalent risk. 150 00:06:08,900 --> 00:06:11,360 So I wouldn't be surprised if these are the organs 151 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,940 that you're not allowed to irradiate as much. 152 00:06:13,940 --> 00:06:15,410 AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]. 153 00:06:15,410 --> 00:06:17,410 MICHAEL SHORT: I'm surprised the eye isn't here. 154 00:06:17,410 --> 00:06:19,410 Does it say retina anywhere? 155 00:06:19,410 --> 00:06:21,100 Oh, OK. 156 00:06:21,100 --> 00:06:22,810 Well that's just one table. 157 00:06:22,810 --> 00:06:25,900 It's not necessarily the complete answer. 158 00:06:28,860 --> 00:06:32,300 Yeah, so 50 millisieverts isn't that much. 159 00:06:32,300 --> 00:06:35,570 Although if you think of it in the old xkcd units of banana 160 00:06:35,570 --> 00:06:38,030 equivalent dose, eating a banana gives you 161 00:06:38,030 --> 00:06:40,640 about 0.1 microsieverts. 162 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:46,040 So you would have to eat 50,000 bananas in a year-- 163 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:51,030 no, I'm sorry, 500,000 bananas in order to incur that. 164 00:06:51,030 --> 00:06:53,570 Well yeah, I was talking to someone at dinner 165 00:06:53,570 --> 00:06:55,400 last night about the banana burning 166 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,520 experiment where we measured the activity in becquerels. 167 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,907 And then we can calculate how much dose in sieverts 168 00:07:00,907 --> 00:07:01,490 it would take. 169 00:07:01,490 --> 00:07:03,080 And he said, how many bananas would it 170 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,360 take to get some increased cancer risk? 171 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:06,230 About double this. 172 00:07:06,230 --> 00:07:07,772 It would take about a million bananas 173 00:07:07,772 --> 00:07:09,545 to give you about 100 millisieverts. 174 00:07:09,545 --> 00:07:11,420 And I said, you know what else it would cost? 175 00:07:11,420 --> 00:07:12,800 And he goes, 100 millisieverts. 176 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:13,678 No shit. 177 00:07:13,678 --> 00:07:14,720 And I said, that's right. 178 00:07:20,010 --> 00:07:21,530 Yeah. 179 00:07:21,530 --> 00:07:23,470 Yeah, he totally didn't plan that, 180 00:07:23,470 --> 00:07:25,380 but it just worked out that way. 181 00:07:25,380 --> 00:07:27,990 Yeah. 182 00:07:27,990 --> 00:07:29,830 And then how much is too much? 183 00:07:29,830 --> 00:07:34,060 Let's say for the general public for a background for excluding 184 00:07:34,060 --> 00:07:37,300 things like natural background and medical exposures, 185 00:07:37,300 --> 00:07:40,000 you're not supposed to get about more than one millisievert just 186 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:41,500 walking about outside. 187 00:07:41,500 --> 00:07:44,860 And you don't tend to get that much more. 188 00:07:44,860 --> 00:07:47,470 Why are medical exposures not included, despite them being 189 00:07:47,470 --> 00:07:49,781 pretty radioactive procedures? 190 00:07:49,781 --> 00:07:50,281 Yeah? 191 00:07:50,281 --> 00:07:52,149 AUDIENCE: Because they're very targeted. 192 00:07:54,485 --> 00:07:55,860 MICHAEL SHORT: They are targeted, 193 00:07:55,860 --> 00:07:58,230 and so they could give a lot of dose to certain organs. 194 00:07:58,230 --> 00:08:00,540 But the amount of dose isn't necessarily 195 00:08:00,540 --> 00:08:03,240 why we don't count medical procedures. 196 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,016 Anyone have any idea? 197 00:08:05,016 --> 00:08:05,796 Yeah. 198 00:08:05,796 --> 00:08:08,004 AUDIENCE: Was it because usually you wear a lead vest 199 00:08:08,004 --> 00:08:09,690 if you're getting an X-ray? 200 00:08:09,690 --> 00:08:12,190 MICHAEL SHORT: In some cases, like if you go to the dentist, 201 00:08:12,190 --> 00:08:13,190 you'll get a lead X-ray. 202 00:08:13,190 --> 00:08:17,200 But let's say you get a chest X-ray. 203 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:21,400 Why don't we care that a chest X-ray is way more than you get? 204 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,840 Because these things tend to save lives. 205 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:28,090 So you're absolutely willing to get extra radiation exposure 206 00:08:28,090 --> 00:08:30,640 that may have a delayed effect if the immediate effect is 207 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,520 to save your life. 208 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:33,570 You had a question? 209 00:08:33,570 --> 00:08:35,539 Or no. 210 00:08:35,539 --> 00:08:36,159 OK. 211 00:08:36,159 --> 00:08:37,830 Yeah, so we don't count medical things 212 00:08:37,830 --> 00:08:41,500 because chances are you're doing them to improve or save 213 00:08:41,500 --> 00:08:42,000 your life. 214 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,860 So what's a little bit of radiation 215 00:08:43,860 --> 00:08:46,800 compared to let's say finding the blood clot or the aneurysm 216 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,600 or whatever it would take? 217 00:08:51,140 --> 00:08:52,310 And then how much is enough? 218 00:08:52,310 --> 00:08:53,932 AUDIENCE: Yeah, that's the table. 219 00:08:53,932 --> 00:08:56,390 MICHAEL SHORT: This is the table that you're familiar with? 220 00:08:56,390 --> 00:08:56,890 Yeah. 221 00:08:56,890 --> 00:08:58,910 They actually talk about the lens of the eye. 222 00:08:58,910 --> 00:09:01,220 And that's a heftier dose. 223 00:09:01,220 --> 00:09:03,900 But also, the lens of the eye is not a very massive organ. 224 00:09:03,900 --> 00:09:07,820 So this would mean do not stick remaining eye in neutron beam, 225 00:09:07,820 --> 00:09:09,730 right? 226 00:09:09,730 --> 00:09:11,240 Or you've seen that sticker, do not 227 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,270 stare into a laser with remaining eye. 228 00:09:14,270 --> 00:09:17,030 Yeah, the same goes for the neutron beam ports coming out 229 00:09:17,030 --> 00:09:18,170 of the reactor. 230 00:09:18,170 --> 00:09:22,460 But the lens of the eye can take a fair bit more dose per unit 231 00:09:22,460 --> 00:09:24,890 mass than the whole body. 232 00:09:24,890 --> 00:09:28,260 The lens of the eye is not a particularly fast developing 233 00:09:28,260 --> 00:09:28,760 tissue. 234 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:32,390 It can cloud up with an insane amount of radiation exposure. 235 00:09:32,390 --> 00:09:35,450 That would take a lot more than 150 millisieverts to do, 236 00:09:35,450 --> 00:09:36,200 though. 237 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:37,970 And then things like 500 millisieverts 238 00:09:37,970 --> 00:09:39,680 for skin, hands, feet. 239 00:09:39,680 --> 00:09:42,260 Pretty much just groups of muscle, bone, and dead skin 240 00:09:42,260 --> 00:09:46,250 that not much is going on biologically. 241 00:09:46,250 --> 00:09:49,000 Blood's flowing through it, but that's about it. 242 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:53,150 And notice that the regulations do differ a little bit, 243 00:09:53,150 --> 00:09:55,280 but on the whole, they're fairly similar. 244 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,310 Same for the eye, same for the feet, same for the year. 245 00:09:58,310 --> 00:10:00,030 Cumulative is a little different. 246 00:10:00,030 --> 00:10:02,420 This says 10 millisieverts times age. 247 00:10:02,420 --> 00:10:04,358 This allows you a little bit more. 248 00:10:04,358 --> 00:10:05,900 Whichever recommendations you follow, 249 00:10:05,900 --> 00:10:08,000 they're all pretty similar. 250 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,710 And our knowledge of how much dose 251 00:10:09,710 --> 00:10:12,260 leads to how much risk hasn't changed 252 00:10:12,260 --> 00:10:15,440 a ton in the last decade or so. 253 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,280 There's been all sorts of arguments for or against it. 254 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,020 Has anyone heard of this LNT or Linear No Threshold 255 00:10:21,020 --> 00:10:24,893 model of dose versus risk? 256 00:10:24,893 --> 00:10:26,310 This is something we'll talk a lot 257 00:10:26,310 --> 00:10:27,690 about on the last day of class. 258 00:10:27,690 --> 00:10:29,490 This is the theory that the amount 259 00:10:29,490 --> 00:10:32,070 of risk versus the amount of dose is linear. 260 00:10:32,070 --> 00:10:35,580 And no threshold means that every little bit of dose 261 00:10:35,580 --> 00:10:38,230 gives you additional risk. 262 00:10:38,230 --> 00:10:41,580 This is not supported very much by science. 263 00:10:41,580 --> 00:10:43,950 I'd say it's not supported by science. 264 00:10:43,950 --> 00:10:46,980 The converse argument is also not supported by science. 265 00:10:46,980 --> 00:10:49,980 We just don't have the statistics at super low doses 266 00:10:49,980 --> 00:10:51,720 to say what happens. 267 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:55,260 But the official recommendation is that there is a unit of dose 268 00:10:55,260 --> 00:11:01,840 that we define as nothing, and it's 0.01 millisieverts-- 269 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:06,050 about 100 bananas-- per event, let's say-- 270 00:11:06,050 --> 00:11:09,730 yeah, where does it say-- yeah, per source or practice. 271 00:11:09,730 --> 00:11:11,950 So eating 100 bananas in one sitting 272 00:11:11,950 --> 00:11:15,100 is considered to give you zero additional risk according 273 00:11:15,100 --> 00:11:16,840 to the official guidelines. 274 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:18,610 So the guidelines put in place do not 275 00:11:18,610 --> 00:11:20,680 follow the linear no threshold model. 276 00:11:20,680 --> 00:11:23,440 But anyone that would claim that one or the other model 277 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,500 is absolutely correct has either got a huge sample 278 00:11:26,500 --> 00:11:28,210 size of people that we don't know about, 279 00:11:28,210 --> 00:11:30,280 or is probably extrapolating beyond what 280 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,630 the data will tell them. 281 00:11:32,630 --> 00:11:35,400 So you'll see this argument flaring up quite a bit. 282 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,900 For the last day of class we'll have you read some arguments 283 00:11:37,900 --> 00:11:40,623 for and against the linear no threshold model that 284 00:11:40,623 --> 00:11:42,040 aren't just blogs on the internet, 285 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:43,760 but they're actual published articles 286 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,250 that have passed peer review. 287 00:11:45,250 --> 00:11:47,042 And it's really hard to tell exactly what's 288 00:11:47,042 --> 00:11:49,062 going on at low doses. 289 00:11:49,062 --> 00:11:50,770 But meanwhile, let's focus on what you do 290 00:11:50,770 --> 00:11:52,870 get that we can measure. 291 00:11:52,870 --> 00:11:57,220 The actual contribution from background levels is about 50% 292 00:11:57,220 --> 00:11:58,300 radon. 293 00:11:58,300 --> 00:12:01,330 This is a natural decay product of radium. 294 00:12:01,330 --> 00:12:02,440 It's just everywhere. 295 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:03,550 It's here right now. 296 00:12:03,550 --> 00:12:05,643 It's all through the atmosphere. 297 00:12:05,643 --> 00:12:07,060 This is why you want your basement 298 00:12:07,060 --> 00:12:09,280 to be rather well ventilated, because it's 299 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,470 a heavy noble gas that accumulates down 300 00:12:11,470 --> 00:12:13,678 in unventilated basements. 301 00:12:13,678 --> 00:12:15,220 So you don't actually want your house 302 00:12:15,220 --> 00:12:16,887 to be sealed up super tight, because you 303 00:12:16,887 --> 00:12:18,610 can have radon accumulation. 304 00:12:18,610 --> 00:12:21,610 Especially if you happen to live near a granite deposit 305 00:12:21,610 --> 00:12:24,370 or on granite bedrock-- which everyone in New Hampshire 306 00:12:24,370 --> 00:12:25,090 does-- 307 00:12:25,090 --> 00:12:27,010 radon levels are a little higher. 308 00:12:27,010 --> 00:12:28,510 There's actually a story about a guy 309 00:12:28,510 --> 00:12:30,910 that used to work at a nuclear plant somewhere 310 00:12:30,910 --> 00:12:31,660 in Pennsylvania. 311 00:12:31,660 --> 00:12:35,080 I don't know where, but he lived on top of a pretty good granite 312 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,680 deposit that was a few parts per million radium more. 313 00:12:38,680 --> 00:12:40,930 So the radon levels in his house or in his basement 314 00:12:40,930 --> 00:12:43,450 were much, much higher than would normally 315 00:12:43,450 --> 00:12:44,880 be allowed for background. 316 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:46,630 And this guy used to set off the radiation 317 00:12:46,630 --> 00:12:49,220 alarms coming into work. 318 00:12:49,220 --> 00:12:51,350 Then he would breathe the nice clean radiation 319 00:12:51,350 --> 00:12:55,010 free air in the plant and go out without setting off the alarm. 320 00:12:55,010 --> 00:12:56,880 Eventually something had to be done. 321 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,450 I don't actually know what was done, but if any of you 322 00:12:59,450 --> 00:13:02,670 can find that original story, that would be pretty cool. 323 00:13:02,670 --> 00:13:05,940 Cosmic rays, another source that you can't shield from, 324 00:13:05,940 --> 00:13:07,740 is about another 10%. 325 00:13:07,740 --> 00:13:10,650 And we'll talk a lot about where these things come from. 326 00:13:10,650 --> 00:13:13,530 Terrestrial radiation, well we'll count that as stuff 327 00:13:13,530 --> 00:13:16,160 in the soil, stuff in the cinder block. 328 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,990 Wood happens to be a fairly radioactive substance 329 00:13:18,990 --> 00:13:21,090 pound for pound, but it's not very dense compared 330 00:13:21,090 --> 00:13:23,320 to things like brick or-- 331 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,340 well, banana ashes is probably about the same as wood. 332 00:13:26,340 --> 00:13:28,695 Internal, coming from you. 333 00:13:28,695 --> 00:13:30,570 You'll have this on problems at number eight. 334 00:13:30,570 --> 00:13:34,170 Because you all now know your internal radioactivity thanks 335 00:13:34,170 --> 00:13:36,210 to going to environmental health and safety. 336 00:13:36,210 --> 00:13:39,750 Did anyone see anything disconcerting in your spectra, 337 00:13:39,750 --> 00:13:43,350 other than a tiny little potassium peak? 338 00:13:43,350 --> 00:13:45,500 Anyone? 339 00:13:45,500 --> 00:13:47,600 I'd say, ah, it's too bad. 340 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,750 But that's great, especially for you guys that work 341 00:13:50,750 --> 00:13:52,670 at the reactor. 342 00:13:52,670 --> 00:13:53,415 Medical X-rays. 343 00:13:53,415 --> 00:13:55,790 It's assumed that everyone gets a couple of these a year. 344 00:13:55,790 --> 00:13:59,240 You all go to the dentist and look for cavities. 345 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,660 You break something, you may get an X-ray of your hand or foot. 346 00:14:02,660 --> 00:14:05,940 And this is let's say an average amount of medical X-rays. 347 00:14:05,940 --> 00:14:10,070 Then a little bit of stuff leftover, consumer products. 348 00:14:10,070 --> 00:14:12,470 This isn't counting things like Fiestaware, 349 00:14:12,470 --> 00:14:14,690 those orange glazed plates and bowls 350 00:14:14,690 --> 00:14:19,770 that were painted with a uranium based neon orange paint. 351 00:14:19,770 --> 00:14:23,270 So we also don't tend to drink from Revigators anymore. 352 00:14:23,270 --> 00:14:25,878 Has anyone ever seen or heard of a Revigator? 353 00:14:25,878 --> 00:14:27,790 AUDIENCE: Yeah, was this in the '50s or '60s? 354 00:14:27,790 --> 00:14:29,360 MICHAEL SHORT: Or even earlier, yeah. 355 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,400 So back in the '20s, people would 356 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,580 put radium ore in these containers and pour water in it 357 00:14:34,580 --> 00:14:36,620 and say, natural radioactivity gets in. 358 00:14:36,620 --> 00:14:43,040 It cures croup or the Jimmy legs or astigmatoid rheumatism, 359 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,460 or whatever other quack diseases there were in the '20s. 360 00:14:46,460 --> 00:14:49,130 You can still find them on eBay, and that's not 361 00:14:49,130 --> 00:14:51,730 accounted for in today's consumer products. 362 00:14:51,730 --> 00:14:54,975 But this all accumulates the amount of dose 363 00:14:54,975 --> 00:14:56,350 that you tend to get on your own. 364 00:14:56,350 --> 00:14:58,810 You might get a couple of millisieverts a year of dose 365 00:14:58,810 --> 00:15:02,160 just from background, especially depending on where you are. 366 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:03,210 And the big one-- 367 00:15:03,210 --> 00:15:05,850 whose spectrum I think you're all familiar with by now-- 368 00:15:05,850 --> 00:15:07,110 is that of radon. 369 00:15:07,110 --> 00:15:10,910 Because we saw most of these peaks in the bananas. 370 00:15:10,910 --> 00:15:14,450 Anyone have any idea why you would find so many radon decay 371 00:15:14,450 --> 00:15:15,800 products in bananas? 372 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:23,360 Given that radon's everywhere, we 373 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:28,190 did notice elevated levels of specifically bismuth 214 374 00:15:28,190 --> 00:15:32,810 and actinium I think 228 was the isotope we saw. 375 00:15:32,810 --> 00:15:35,420 Where would those come from? 376 00:15:35,420 --> 00:15:35,920 The what? 377 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:36,880 AUDIENCE: The soil. 378 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:38,230 MICHAEL SHORT: Absolutely, yeah. 379 00:15:38,230 --> 00:15:40,147 Whatever radium's coming out from the bedrock, 380 00:15:40,147 --> 00:15:42,250 that radon has to come up through the soil. 381 00:15:42,250 --> 00:15:44,530 If that happens to decay in the soil, 382 00:15:44,530 --> 00:15:46,990 it makes lead, bismuth, polonium, 383 00:15:46,990 --> 00:15:50,560 other heavy metals that are taken by the plant's tissues. 384 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,320 In addition, radon daughter products 385 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,257 can plate out on the leaves themselves. 386 00:15:56,257 --> 00:15:58,090 So this is one of those reasons that smoking 387 00:15:58,090 --> 00:16:00,160 is such a bad thing to do. 388 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,200 Aside from the chemical effects, you 389 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,140 have giant fields of high surface area tobacco 390 00:16:05,140 --> 00:16:07,250 that you then concentrate and dry up 391 00:16:07,250 --> 00:16:08,500 into these tiny little sticks. 392 00:16:08,500 --> 00:16:11,230 You have an enormous amount of leaf surface area 393 00:16:11,230 --> 00:16:14,530 and dry vegetation that has taken all these radon daughter 394 00:16:14,530 --> 00:16:15,430 products. 395 00:16:15,430 --> 00:16:17,740 So most the dose you get from smoking 396 00:16:17,740 --> 00:16:21,040 is lead, bismuth, polonium, actinium, radium. 397 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:22,360 Alpha emitters. 398 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,360 As we saw last time, to remind you 399 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:31,030 guys of the quality factor for alpha particles, 400 00:16:31,030 --> 00:16:33,050 it's as big as it gets. 401 00:16:33,050 --> 00:16:34,250 Anyone remember why that is? 402 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,210 Why are alphas so damaging if they get into your tissues? 403 00:16:41,210 --> 00:16:42,583 AUDIENCE: Because they're big. 404 00:16:42,583 --> 00:16:44,750 MICHAEL SHORT: They are big, so they have high mass. 405 00:16:44,750 --> 00:16:45,450 And? 406 00:16:45,450 --> 00:16:46,370 AUDIENCE: Short range. 407 00:16:46,370 --> 00:16:47,745 MICHAEL SHORT: Short range coming 408 00:16:47,745 --> 00:16:50,780 from their high relative charge. 409 00:16:50,780 --> 00:16:52,820 They have quite high stopping power. 410 00:16:52,820 --> 00:16:54,770 And they will deposit a lot of energy 411 00:16:54,770 --> 00:16:57,240 very close to where they are emitted. 412 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:58,460 So their range is very small. 413 00:16:58,460 --> 00:17:01,233 So that armor piercing bullet analogy 414 00:17:01,233 --> 00:17:03,650 comes to just an armor piercing bullet that explodes right 415 00:17:03,650 --> 00:17:05,420 out of the barrel of the gun. 416 00:17:05,420 --> 00:17:09,190 And they do quite a bit of radiation damage. 417 00:17:09,190 --> 00:17:13,449 We jump back to the right slide without inducing a seizure. 418 00:17:15,980 --> 00:17:18,500 I think we've looked before at the radon decay chain. 419 00:17:18,500 --> 00:17:20,300 This is a simplified version, because there 420 00:17:20,300 --> 00:17:22,640 are different branches or different possibilities 421 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,849 for decay, but some of them have extremely low percentages. 422 00:17:25,849 --> 00:17:27,950 So this one's simplified quite a bit. 423 00:17:27,950 --> 00:17:31,670 But it is whenever radon decays, it gives off 424 00:17:31,670 --> 00:17:33,170 a bunch of alpha and beta emitters 425 00:17:33,170 --> 00:17:37,970 that last anywhere from minutes or seconds to days and so. 426 00:17:37,970 --> 00:17:40,220 For every radon atom that you absorb, 427 00:17:40,220 --> 00:17:42,740 you end up getting four or five alphas and betas, 428 00:17:42,740 --> 00:17:46,680 depending on how long it stays into your system. 429 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,520 And then mapping out radon in the US. 430 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,420 You have quite different amount of radon dose 431 00:17:52,420 --> 00:17:54,380 depending on where you are. 432 00:17:54,380 --> 00:17:56,170 And I wanted to skip ahead and overlay 433 00:17:56,170 --> 00:17:58,420 a couple of maps of the US. 434 00:17:58,420 --> 00:18:01,630 So this is a terrestrial-- 435 00:18:01,630 --> 00:18:03,770 oh, I'm sorry, that's the wrong one. 436 00:18:03,770 --> 00:18:05,260 Let's just look at this one, yeah. 437 00:18:05,260 --> 00:18:06,700 Anyone notice any patterns here? 438 00:18:06,700 --> 00:18:08,590 Where do you tend to get the most radon? 439 00:18:11,190 --> 00:18:14,070 What sort of features would one live near when 440 00:18:14,070 --> 00:18:16,656 you get a lot of radon dose? 441 00:18:16,656 --> 00:18:17,600 AUDIENCE: Mountains. 442 00:18:19,785 --> 00:18:21,910 MICHAEL SHORT: Mountains, which tend to be made of? 443 00:18:21,910 --> 00:18:22,577 AUDIENCE: Rocks. 444 00:18:22,577 --> 00:18:27,010 MICHAEL SHORT: Rocks, which tend to contain a lot of radium. 445 00:18:27,010 --> 00:18:29,080 Especially granite and other such rocks. 446 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:33,430 The Conway granite, named after up in Conway, New Hampshire, 447 00:18:33,430 --> 00:18:37,780 is about 52 parts per million uranium or radium. 448 00:18:37,780 --> 00:18:39,550 So it's a fairly toasty rock. 449 00:18:39,550 --> 00:18:43,150 You can actually tell there with your Geiger counter, 450 00:18:43,150 --> 00:18:45,100 if its count long enough, that there 451 00:18:45,100 --> 00:18:49,060 is a little bit of radioactive ore in that Conway granite. 452 00:18:49,060 --> 00:18:50,870 Not nearly enough to matter at all, 453 00:18:50,870 --> 00:18:53,453 and certainly not enough to stop you from making fancy kitchen 454 00:18:53,453 --> 00:18:54,238 countertops. 455 00:18:54,238 --> 00:18:55,780 But I wonder if folks would buy those 456 00:18:55,780 --> 00:18:58,990 if they knew that there was 52 parts per million of something 457 00:18:58,990 --> 00:19:01,630 with a half life of 9 billion years. 458 00:19:01,630 --> 00:19:03,863 I somehow think it would matter to people, 459 00:19:03,863 --> 00:19:04,780 but it really doesn't. 460 00:19:04,780 --> 00:19:07,930 AUDIENCE: They put the radiation symbol on it [INAUDIBLE] 461 00:19:07,930 --> 00:19:09,933 MICHAEL SHORT: Yes, engrave that. 462 00:19:09,933 --> 00:19:12,100 If they made the radiation symbol a little induction 463 00:19:12,100 --> 00:19:14,200 stove, that would be pretty slick. 464 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:15,640 Yeah. 465 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,600 And then in terms of relative radon risk, 466 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:18,910 how much actually matters? 467 00:19:18,910 --> 00:19:19,900 I like this graph. 468 00:19:19,900 --> 00:19:22,600 Despite being difficult to read, it actually 469 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,330 shows how much the average indoor level 470 00:19:25,330 --> 00:19:28,330 compares to all the different things you could do. 471 00:19:28,330 --> 00:19:32,890 Like getting 2,000 chest X-rays per year versus 100 times 472 00:19:32,890 --> 00:19:33,970 the average indoor level. 473 00:19:33,970 --> 00:19:36,280 That's about what I heard that fellow in Pennsylvania 474 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,520 had is like 100 or 80 times the normal radon 475 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:44,200 levels from living underground on this giant granite deposit. 476 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,080 It's like getting 2,000 chest X-rays per year, 477 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:50,230 or something like smoking four packs a day. 478 00:19:50,230 --> 00:19:52,620 I know some people that do this. 479 00:19:52,620 --> 00:19:54,990 They don't tend to be that afraid of the radiation 480 00:19:54,990 --> 00:19:58,290 that they're taking in from smoking. 481 00:19:58,290 --> 00:20:04,200 But yeah, it's pretty insane how much radiation you get. 482 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,720 People are afraid to get one chest X-ray, which is not even 483 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,280 on this map. 484 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,590 One chest X-ray worth of radiation 485 00:20:10,590 --> 00:20:14,880 gives you much, much less than living for a year in a house, 486 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:16,577 which we all tend to do. 487 00:20:16,577 --> 00:20:18,660 Then if you live in a brick or cinder block house, 488 00:20:18,660 --> 00:20:20,730 you actually get a fair bit more radiation, 489 00:20:20,730 --> 00:20:23,460 because these are fairly radioactive building materials. 490 00:20:23,460 --> 00:20:27,020 And I'll show you those activity levels in just a sec. 491 00:20:27,020 --> 00:20:28,670 As far as exposure sources, again, 492 00:20:28,670 --> 00:20:31,850 to look at the relative amount of terrestrial gamma ray 493 00:20:31,850 --> 00:20:35,240 exposure, you can correlate that pretty well 494 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:39,920 with not green regions on a topological map. 495 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,860 So look at the really low levels down here, 496 00:20:42,860 --> 00:20:47,810 correlates with low lying vegetative areas around here. 497 00:20:47,810 --> 00:20:50,660 Colors are a little more extreme on my screen, 498 00:20:50,660 --> 00:20:52,820 but you can see this is all low lying right here. 499 00:20:52,820 --> 00:20:55,670 From Louisiana, Florida, up the east coast, 500 00:20:55,670 --> 00:20:59,910 until you get to the Appalachian Mountains and such. 501 00:20:59,910 --> 00:21:03,250 So pretty striking correlations there. 502 00:21:03,250 --> 00:21:06,310 And it all comes from what we call the primordial nuclides. 503 00:21:06,310 --> 00:21:09,760 These are unstable nuclides that have such long half 504 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,100 lives that they still exist, despite the universe 505 00:21:12,100 --> 00:21:15,220 being 15 billion years old, or whatever supernova 506 00:21:15,220 --> 00:21:19,690 formed our solar system being five plus billion years old. 507 00:21:19,690 --> 00:21:22,090 Things that we've already studied almost to death, 508 00:21:22,090 --> 00:21:24,190 like potassium-40. 509 00:21:24,190 --> 00:21:28,750 And you can see that's about 0.011% of all potassium 510 00:21:28,750 --> 00:21:30,940 is radioactive potassium-40. 511 00:21:30,940 --> 00:21:34,600 About 10% of which gives off gammas in-- 512 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:35,650 what is it, 90/10? 513 00:21:35,650 --> 00:21:37,000 I forget the split. 514 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,460 But can give off either betas and then a gamma, 515 00:21:39,460 --> 00:21:41,860 or positrons and then a gamma. 516 00:21:41,860 --> 00:21:44,860 Then things like rubidium, in the same column 517 00:21:44,860 --> 00:21:48,250 as sodium, potassium, and cesium, so it behaves kind 518 00:21:48,250 --> 00:21:51,220 of like a salt-like element. 519 00:21:51,220 --> 00:21:55,610 There should be some for-- are there any for chlorine too? 520 00:21:55,610 --> 00:21:58,070 Some of the other important ones to note, oh, platinum. 521 00:21:58,070 --> 00:21:59,877 Does anyone has any platinum jewelry? 522 00:21:59,877 --> 00:22:01,460 Does anyone have any platinum jewelry? 523 00:22:05,020 --> 00:22:05,950 Good answer, yeah. 524 00:22:05,950 --> 00:22:06,850 I don't either. 525 00:22:06,850 --> 00:22:09,070 I teach at a college. 526 00:22:09,070 --> 00:22:11,710 Also, I don't like wearing jewelry. 527 00:22:11,710 --> 00:22:14,110 But there'll be all sorts of these primordial nuclides 528 00:22:14,110 --> 00:22:15,850 that you can't really do anything about. 529 00:22:15,850 --> 00:22:17,030 They're just there. 530 00:22:17,030 --> 00:22:19,510 Note that the half lives are really, really long. 531 00:22:19,510 --> 00:22:21,010 And as you know now, the half life 532 00:22:21,010 --> 00:22:24,100 is going to be inversely proportional to the activity. 533 00:22:24,100 --> 00:22:26,050 Despite almost all indium-- 534 00:22:26,050 --> 00:22:31,210 look at that, 95% of the indium that you'll find emits betas. 535 00:22:31,210 --> 00:22:33,880 Doesn't stop people from using it as these awesome glass 536 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,278 to metal seals for vacuum components. 537 00:22:36,278 --> 00:22:38,320 Because once in a while it might emit a beta ray, 538 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,440 like a whole gasket might emit a beta once 539 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,270 every millennium or so. 540 00:22:43,270 --> 00:22:46,920 But these half lives actually are measurable. 541 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,880 And that begs the question, are there elements 542 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,960 with longer half lives that are just too long to measure? 543 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,580 You think what does it mean to have a half life of 10 544 00:22:54,580 --> 00:22:59,260 to the 15 years, given that the universe is on the order of 10 545 00:22:59,260 --> 00:23:02,470 to the 10 years old? 546 00:23:02,470 --> 00:23:04,600 Is it possible that all nuclei will 547 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,330 decay till the end of time? 548 00:23:07,330 --> 00:23:09,160 I've seen some documentary such things 549 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,770 and don't call this a science that say, oh 10 to the 40 years 550 00:23:11,770 --> 00:23:13,840 from now, the last protons decay, 551 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,810 or the last whatever elements decay 552 00:23:16,810 --> 00:23:19,490 into all protons and neutrons. 553 00:23:19,490 --> 00:23:21,220 Don't know if that's true, but it 554 00:23:21,220 --> 00:23:24,460 does make me wonder, are some of the other so-called stable 555 00:23:24,460 --> 00:23:28,670 elements just have ridiculously long half lives? 556 00:23:28,670 --> 00:23:31,268 It's something to think about. 557 00:23:31,268 --> 00:23:33,640 So let's take a look at the building materials, 558 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,150 and see what's in the typical things around us right now. 559 00:23:37,150 --> 00:23:40,120 You can see how much granite, radioactive thorium, 560 00:23:40,120 --> 00:23:42,550 and potassium are in these building materials. 561 00:23:42,550 --> 00:23:46,410 And how many usually is measured in picocuries per gram. 562 00:23:46,410 --> 00:23:49,870 A picocurie is already less than a becquerel per gram. 563 00:23:49,870 --> 00:23:57,000 Because a curie is what, 3.7 times 10 to the 10 becquerels. 564 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,720 And a pico is a 10 to the minus 12. 565 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,180 So things on the order of a few picocuries per gram, 566 00:24:03,180 --> 00:24:04,690 a gram of that material might emit 567 00:24:04,690 --> 00:24:07,360 one disintegration per second. 568 00:24:07,360 --> 00:24:09,100 Not a lot of radiation. 569 00:24:09,100 --> 00:24:11,920 But take a look at how much potassium there is in granite. 570 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:16,060 Nanocuries per gram, that's getting into the integers 571 00:24:16,060 --> 00:24:18,130 worth of becquerels. 572 00:24:18,130 --> 00:24:22,620 If you look at wood, check that out. 573 00:24:22,620 --> 00:24:25,844 Anyone heard of potash before? 574 00:24:25,844 --> 00:24:27,830 It's one of the ways we get potassium. 575 00:24:27,830 --> 00:24:31,180 So if you take wood based things and you burn them in a fire, 576 00:24:31,180 --> 00:24:33,130 you drive off all the carbon in the water, 577 00:24:33,130 --> 00:24:36,460 you're left with these kind of whitened salt and pepper ashes. 578 00:24:36,460 --> 00:24:37,390 That's potash. 579 00:24:37,390 --> 00:24:39,040 That's the ashes left over in the pot 580 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,332 after you burn stuff in a fire. 581 00:24:40,332 --> 00:24:42,202 They're quite potassium rich. 582 00:24:42,202 --> 00:24:43,660 So I think what we'll do next year, 583 00:24:43,660 --> 00:24:45,662 instead of burning a bunch of food, 584 00:24:45,662 --> 00:24:46,870 is just burn a bunch of wood. 585 00:24:46,870 --> 00:24:50,290 We'll have a nice bonfire, collect the ashes. 586 00:24:50,290 --> 00:24:53,080 And we can see how much potassium there is in wood. 587 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,270 Which pound for pound, if you see on this list, 588 00:24:55,270 --> 00:24:58,390 is the most radioactive building material there is. 589 00:24:58,390 --> 00:25:01,270 Just that wood happens to be pretty inexpensive, 590 00:25:01,270 --> 00:25:05,050 and consists mostly of water, lignin, and other carboniferous 591 00:25:05,050 --> 00:25:06,340 materials. 592 00:25:06,340 --> 00:25:08,200 They don't have carbon-14 on this list, 593 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,200 but let's take a look at some of the other ones. 594 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:14,560 So sandstone cement has a pretty toasty signature to it. 595 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,500 Gypsum drywall. 596 00:25:17,500 --> 00:25:20,470 What is it, 13 parts per million uranium in all the drywall 597 00:25:20,470 --> 00:25:22,830 you tend to find. 598 00:25:22,830 --> 00:25:24,075 Anyone scared yet? 599 00:25:24,075 --> 00:25:26,140 Because you shouldn't be. 600 00:25:26,140 --> 00:25:28,970 It's like I mentioned before, this 601 00:25:28,970 --> 00:25:31,220 is the slide I want to show to most folks 602 00:25:31,220 --> 00:25:33,050 in the general public. 603 00:25:33,050 --> 00:25:35,660 There is such a dose as nothing. 604 00:25:35,660 --> 00:25:37,830 And that's pretty much what you get from, 605 00:25:37,830 --> 00:25:39,440 let's say, a day's worth of being around these building 606 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:39,890 materials. 607 00:25:39,890 --> 00:25:40,890 It's just about nothing. 608 00:25:44,522 --> 00:25:48,200 It's after the building materials. 609 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,470 There we go. 610 00:25:50,470 --> 00:25:54,150 Seawater is another great source of radioactivity. 611 00:25:54,150 --> 00:25:58,410 Enough so that people have actually 612 00:25:58,410 --> 00:26:03,125 proposed harvesting uranium from seawater. 613 00:26:03,125 --> 00:26:05,000 So the total amount of activity in the ocean, 614 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:09,140 there's something like 11 exabecquerels 615 00:26:09,140 --> 00:26:12,440 of radiation contained in the uranium in the seawater. 616 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,220 Which means you should be able to have a gigantic trawler 617 00:26:16,220 --> 00:26:20,208 flying out around in the ocean, and just floating 618 00:26:20,208 --> 00:26:22,250 through the seawater, picking up atoms of uranium 619 00:26:22,250 --> 00:26:22,670 here and there. 620 00:26:22,670 --> 00:26:24,503 Because technically, there's enough to power 621 00:26:24,503 --> 00:26:26,300 the world for like 2,000 years. 622 00:26:26,300 --> 00:26:28,410 The problem is the ocean is big. 623 00:26:28,410 --> 00:26:30,920 It doesn't stop people from actually working on it. 624 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,337 So it's neat to think that there's 625 00:26:32,337 --> 00:26:34,430 a whole lot of carbon-14 and tritium 626 00:26:34,430 --> 00:26:37,650 and uranium in seawater. 627 00:26:37,650 --> 00:26:39,690 300 picocuries per liter. 628 00:26:39,690 --> 00:26:42,598 Anyone have any idea why there's so much more potassium activity 629 00:26:42,598 --> 00:26:43,890 than anything else in seawater? 630 00:26:47,590 --> 00:26:49,330 It's because it's salty, yeah. 631 00:26:49,330 --> 00:26:50,950 And potassium's just like sodium. 632 00:26:50,950 --> 00:26:53,380 So there'll be a fair bit of potassium 633 00:26:53,380 --> 00:27:00,300 in the seawater, 0.0117% of which is potassium-40. 634 00:27:00,300 --> 00:27:04,030 And so last year, people asked, what, uranium from seawater? 635 00:27:04,030 --> 00:27:05,360 How is that even possible? 636 00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:07,090 So this is the part in the course where 637 00:27:07,090 --> 00:27:09,250 I'm going to pull out a lot more recent papers 638 00:27:09,250 --> 00:27:11,920 to show you some of the cooler innovations going on. 639 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,290 So you could use this adsorbent. 640 00:27:14,290 --> 00:27:15,000 And adsorbent. 641 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:20,060 Does anyone know what adsorption means, not absorption? 642 00:27:20,060 --> 00:27:21,890 Adsorption is when something sticks 643 00:27:21,890 --> 00:27:23,630 to the surface of something. 644 00:27:23,630 --> 00:27:25,880 Absorption with a B is when it actually gets 645 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,950 incorporated into the bulk. 646 00:27:27,950 --> 00:27:30,500 So folks are thinking about making high surface area 647 00:27:30,500 --> 00:27:35,280 materials that can adsorb selectively atoms of uranium. 648 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,560 So you send out this huge braided net, or a huge stack 649 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:44,240 of adsorbing material with a D, and just go around 650 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:45,590 in the ocean. 651 00:27:45,590 --> 00:27:48,440 Attach them to tankers or cargo ships, 652 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,810 and just have them pull in product 653 00:27:50,810 --> 00:27:53,150 as they go from coast to coast. 654 00:27:53,150 --> 00:27:56,180 And by actually changing around the chemistry and the geometry 655 00:27:56,180 --> 00:27:59,300 of this, you can enhance things specifically for uranium 656 00:27:59,300 --> 00:28:00,830 by about a factor of three. 657 00:28:00,830 --> 00:28:03,800 And this yellowcake right here next to an actual ruler-- 658 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,930 that's 50 millimeters right there-- 659 00:28:05,930 --> 00:28:08,600 that was obtained directly from seawater. 660 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,938 So you can actually pull yellowcake out of the ocean. 661 00:28:11,938 --> 00:28:12,980 Just not very much of it. 662 00:28:15,580 --> 00:28:18,810 And the way these work is there are interesting compounds that 663 00:28:18,810 --> 00:28:22,530 selectively absorb uranium into their structure, 664 00:28:22,530 --> 00:28:27,990 not by direct chemical bonding, but by getting something close. 665 00:28:27,990 --> 00:28:30,990 For example, my wife tends to study metals bonding 666 00:28:30,990 --> 00:28:31,740 to proteins. 667 00:28:31,740 --> 00:28:34,488 And it's not necessarily always a full chemical bond 668 00:28:34,488 --> 00:28:36,030 like you might think, but the protein 669 00:28:36,030 --> 00:28:39,570 can kind of wrap around a metal ion, transport it places. 670 00:28:39,570 --> 00:28:41,530 Similar thing going here. 671 00:28:41,530 --> 00:28:43,590 I'm not going to pontificate anymore 672 00:28:43,590 --> 00:28:46,200 on it because the title has the word organic in it, 673 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,380 and I am definitely not an organic chemist. 674 00:28:48,380 --> 00:28:49,963 Don't want to tell you anything wrong, 675 00:28:49,963 --> 00:28:52,583 but I do want to tell you you can actually see this paper 676 00:28:52,583 --> 00:28:54,000 to find out what sort of compounds 677 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,958 selectively grab onto uranium. 678 00:28:55,958 --> 00:28:57,750 And if there's a seawater floating through, 679 00:28:57,750 --> 00:29:01,200 and uranium happens to flow nearby, it can bond to it. 680 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:05,040 You can then somehow squeeze out or burn off that adsorbent, 681 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,535 and there you get uranium. 682 00:29:07,535 --> 00:29:09,160 Now let's talk about what's in the body 683 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,720 and interpreting the spectra that you got from EHS, 684 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,270 your full body spectra. 685 00:29:15,270 --> 00:29:16,870 If you take a look at how much uranium 686 00:29:16,870 --> 00:29:19,030 there is in the body, wow, there's some. 687 00:29:19,030 --> 00:29:22,330 Every one of you is got about a becquerel of uranium 688 00:29:22,330 --> 00:29:23,480 in the body. 689 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,080 But if you look at the relative amounts, rate it was at. 690 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,870 The only things that really matter a ton, 691 00:29:29,870 --> 00:29:34,580 potassium-40, about 4.4 kilobecquerels per human. 692 00:29:34,580 --> 00:29:38,490 So each of you is giving off 4,400 potassium gammas 693 00:29:38,490 --> 00:29:40,080 per second. 694 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,770 Most of them just flow right through all the other people. 695 00:29:42,770 --> 00:29:48,183 And then carbon-14, about 3.7 kilobecquerels. 696 00:29:48,183 --> 00:29:50,600 Pretty interesting to know just how much radioactive stuff 697 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,070 you have in your own body. 698 00:29:52,070 --> 00:29:55,310 You will need this table for homework number eight 699 00:29:55,310 --> 00:29:58,220 when I ask you a pretty fun question. 700 00:29:58,220 --> 00:30:00,770 Then there's all the various medical procedures. 701 00:30:00,770 --> 00:30:03,920 The ones that aren't counted in your annual dose because they 702 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,630 tend to save people. 703 00:30:05,630 --> 00:30:07,880 But now let's look at the dose in millirem 704 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,520 So if you want to figure out what this is in sieverts, 705 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,720 just divide by 100. 706 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:17,880 So a regular old chest X-ray, 0.1-- 707 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,620 let's see, how does it go? 708 00:30:19,620 --> 00:30:23,070 100 rem in a sievert. 709 00:30:23,070 --> 00:30:27,610 Yeah, so about 0.1 millisieverts, or 1,000 banana 710 00:30:27,610 --> 00:30:28,300 equivalent dose. 711 00:30:28,300 --> 00:30:29,620 Not terrible. 712 00:30:29,620 --> 00:30:34,350 Which is why if we go back to that chart of all 713 00:30:34,350 --> 00:30:36,420 those relative risks, if you look 714 00:30:36,420 --> 00:30:39,510 at the average indoor level, it's like getting-- well, 715 00:30:39,510 --> 00:30:42,900 I would have to guess maybe 40 chest X-rays per year 716 00:30:42,900 --> 00:30:44,932 based on this rather crude scale. 717 00:30:44,932 --> 00:30:46,890 And you're allowed to get around a millisievert 718 00:30:46,890 --> 00:30:49,440 or a few millisieverts of radiation per year. 719 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,641 That sounds like it checks out mathematically. 720 00:30:54,870 --> 00:30:57,540 Let's look at some of the other crazier ones. 721 00:30:57,540 --> 00:30:59,070 Dental bitewing. 722 00:30:59,070 --> 00:30:59,640 Yeah. 723 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,890 So anyone ever bite down on something 724 00:31:01,890 --> 00:31:04,980 where you have to get an X-ray through the side of your mouth? 725 00:31:04,980 --> 00:31:08,040 Quite negligible amount of dose, yet they still 726 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,630 put the lead apron on you. 727 00:31:10,630 --> 00:31:13,720 I'm guessing that's mostly for show, because that's 728 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:14,920 very, very little dose. 729 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:20,350 It's well beyond the 0.1 microsieverts of something 730 00:31:20,350 --> 00:31:22,000 that counts as nothing. 731 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,770 But there's not a lot of dose going into these things. 732 00:31:24,770 --> 00:31:28,390 Let's see what really does give you a whole lot of dose. 733 00:31:28,390 --> 00:31:34,030 10 millisieverts for a CT scan, or a whole body CT screening. 734 00:31:34,030 --> 00:31:36,190 That's a pretty hefty amount of dose. 735 00:31:36,190 --> 00:31:38,290 Right there with one procedure you 736 00:31:38,290 --> 00:31:41,772 may get more than your normal annual background dose. 737 00:31:41,772 --> 00:31:43,480 But if you're going in to look for stuff, 738 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,270 chances are you need to find whatever you're looking for. 739 00:31:46,270 --> 00:31:47,200 So we don't count it. 740 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,560 And it may give you a slightly higher chance 741 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,140 of developing cancer much later down the line 742 00:31:53,140 --> 00:31:55,572 when that cell that gets mutated divides. 743 00:31:55,572 --> 00:31:58,030 But it's probably going to save your life in the next hour, 744 00:31:58,030 --> 00:31:59,270 or the next day. 745 00:31:59,270 --> 00:32:01,550 So definitely worth it. 746 00:32:01,550 --> 00:32:03,930 Let's see, the worst-- 747 00:32:03,930 --> 00:32:05,820 what's the worst procedure we can find? 748 00:32:09,980 --> 00:32:12,200 Noncardiac embolization. 749 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,650 I don't know enough biology words 750 00:32:13,650 --> 00:32:15,866 know exactly what that means. 751 00:32:15,866 --> 00:32:18,210 AUDIENCE: I know what noncardiac means. 752 00:32:18,210 --> 00:32:20,990 MICHAEL SHORT: Yeah, I think we all know what noncardiac means. 753 00:32:20,990 --> 00:32:21,690 Good. 754 00:32:21,690 --> 00:32:25,960 This isn't 7012. 755 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,110 Nonmedical procedures-- or more medical procedures, I'm sorry. 756 00:32:29,110 --> 00:32:30,700 Where's the techneitum scan? 757 00:32:30,700 --> 00:32:32,590 Yeah, notice how many of these things 758 00:32:32,590 --> 00:32:35,830 have technetium imaging where you'll inject technetium 759 00:32:35,830 --> 00:32:39,430 into a certain organ or a certain vascular or lymph 760 00:32:39,430 --> 00:32:40,940 or whatever system. 761 00:32:40,940 --> 00:32:43,240 Some of these things can give you a fair bit of dose. 762 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,570 Like again, maybe a heart stress rest test 763 00:32:46,570 --> 00:32:49,600 can give you double or triple your normal background dose. 764 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,060 This is why you have to declare to airports 765 00:32:52,060 --> 00:32:54,310 if you've just had a medical imaging procedure, 766 00:32:54,310 --> 00:32:56,830 because this is well more than enough to pick up 767 00:32:56,830 --> 00:32:59,575 on any sort of airport radiation monitor. 768 00:32:59,575 --> 00:33:01,450 So again, if you ever get a medical procedure 769 00:33:01,450 --> 00:33:03,730 with any sort of radiation, anything, 770 00:33:03,730 --> 00:33:08,260 do declare it, because it's quite measurable. 771 00:33:08,260 --> 00:33:10,390 Then there's radiation from altitude. 772 00:33:10,390 --> 00:33:13,210 I may have mentioned already that the reason that pilots 773 00:33:13,210 --> 00:33:16,810 can't fly for a certain number of hours is not fatigue, 774 00:33:16,810 --> 00:33:18,940 but it's radiation exposure. 775 00:33:18,940 --> 00:33:21,400 When you start to look at how many 776 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,750 microsieverts you get per hour on the ground, 0.03. 777 00:33:25,750 --> 00:33:28,270 Right about down at that-- hanging around for an hour 778 00:33:28,270 --> 00:33:29,950 is a negligible dose. 779 00:33:29,950 --> 00:33:32,440 You go up to international air travel, 780 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,950 that goes up by a factor of little more than 100. 781 00:33:35,950 --> 00:33:39,310 And so you get a fair bit of radiation exposure. 782 00:33:39,310 --> 00:33:42,160 If you take your annual allowable occupational 783 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:47,160 limit of 50 millisieverts, divide by 3.7 microsieverts, 784 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:48,650 you're getting close to 86-- 785 00:33:48,650 --> 00:33:49,150 what is it? 786 00:33:49,150 --> 00:33:51,948 How many hours in a year? 787 00:33:51,948 --> 00:33:52,970 Let's see. 788 00:33:52,970 --> 00:33:55,860 There's three times 10 of the seven seconds in a year. 789 00:33:55,860 --> 00:33:57,640 So divide that by 3,600. 790 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,680 That's getting on the realm of 10,000. 791 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,690 That's about the conversion factor. 792 00:34:01,690 --> 00:34:03,403 So you can't spend your life in the air, 793 00:34:03,403 --> 00:34:05,320 because you'd get too much radiation according 794 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:09,480 to the occupational risks. 795 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,552 And so actually in addition to some interesting measurements 796 00:34:12,552 --> 00:34:14,010 that have been published in papers, 797 00:34:14,010 --> 00:34:15,719 we've actually had students go out 798 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:20,250 and build radiation altimeters based on the MIT Geiger 799 00:34:20,250 --> 00:34:21,179 counter-- 800 00:34:21,179 --> 00:34:23,012 removing the speaker, of course, because you 801 00:34:23,012 --> 00:34:25,090 don't want to clicking Geiger counter on a plane. 802 00:34:25,090 --> 00:34:27,480 That'd be kind of a stressful situation. 803 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,340 Let me show you one example of these. 804 00:34:29,340 --> 00:34:32,670 Are also published from a paper, but we have pretty similar data 805 00:34:32,670 --> 00:34:35,130 from-- if you want, to go talk to Max Carlson, 806 00:34:35,130 --> 00:34:39,179 one of my graduate students who hooked up his Geiger counter 807 00:34:39,179 --> 00:34:41,370 to an alarm clock-- 808 00:34:41,370 --> 00:34:44,560 the case that had [INAUDIBLE] in it. 809 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,130 I think this was a poor choice of case for a plane 810 00:34:47,130 --> 00:34:49,920 because it looks kind of like a time bomb. 811 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:54,270 But luckily nobody found it, and he was able to get the data. 812 00:34:54,270 --> 00:34:56,280 But you can see just how much more data you get. 813 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,700 And you can correlate the height that you're at with the dose-- 814 00:34:59,700 --> 00:35:05,950 in this case, microroentgens per hour or microrad depending on-- 815 00:35:05,950 --> 00:35:10,180 what is it-- ambiguous unit definition right there. 816 00:35:10,180 --> 00:35:11,590 But it's quite noticeable. 817 00:35:11,590 --> 00:35:13,690 So for those of you who have built Geiger counters 818 00:35:13,690 --> 00:35:17,230 and have cell phones, and don't want to have a fake time bomb, 819 00:35:17,230 --> 00:35:19,390 you can actually hook in your Geiger counter 820 00:35:19,390 --> 00:35:21,330 to the microphone port of your cell phone. 821 00:35:21,330 --> 00:35:23,230 And with a few available radiation apps, 822 00:35:23,230 --> 00:35:27,220 you can actually monitor your dose in microsieverts. 823 00:35:27,220 --> 00:35:29,710 Assuming that it all comes from gamma rays, which 824 00:35:29,710 --> 00:35:31,880 is most of what a lot of cosmic rays will produce. 825 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,430 So it's a pretty safe approximation 826 00:35:33,430 --> 00:35:35,650 that your dose in gray flying on the plane 827 00:35:35,650 --> 00:35:37,600 is also your dose in sieverts, because it's 828 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,933 whole body, and its gammas. 829 00:35:39,933 --> 00:35:41,350 So I'd say try this at home, kids. 830 00:35:41,350 --> 00:35:46,130 This is one of those things I recommend you try out. 831 00:35:46,130 --> 00:35:48,830 Speaking of these cosmic rays, where did they come from? 832 00:35:48,830 --> 00:35:51,220 Well, this is a question that's been under debate, 833 00:35:51,220 --> 00:35:54,910 and was more completely answered just a few years ago. 834 00:35:54,910 --> 00:35:58,330 They come from very high energy particles from somewhere. 835 00:35:58,330 --> 00:36:01,060 It had been argued, do they come mostly from solar flares, 836 00:36:01,060 --> 00:36:04,480 or did they come from elsewhere in the galaxy? 837 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,810 Mostly we're talking about things like high energy protons 838 00:36:07,810 --> 00:36:09,640 or other charged particles. 839 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,710 We're also talking neutrinos. 840 00:36:11,710 --> 00:36:13,330 Anyone know about how many neutrinos 841 00:36:13,330 --> 00:36:18,790 are theorized to pass through you every second? 842 00:36:18,790 --> 00:36:19,690 Trillions. 843 00:36:19,690 --> 00:36:21,110 Yeah, something like that. 844 00:36:21,110 --> 00:36:23,800 But they basically don't interact with matter. 845 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,760 As I showed you guys near the beginning, 846 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,710 it takes a gigantic salt mine full of water and exploding 847 00:36:29,710 --> 00:36:33,250 photomultiplier tubes in order to catch two or three neutrinos 848 00:36:33,250 --> 00:36:34,330 a day if you're lucky. 849 00:36:34,330 --> 00:36:36,430 So let's say those don't really matter 850 00:36:36,430 --> 00:36:38,020 in terms of background dose. 851 00:36:38,020 --> 00:36:41,218 But when those high energy particles interact 852 00:36:41,218 --> 00:36:43,510 with the oxygen and nitrogen up here in the atmosphere, 853 00:36:43,510 --> 00:36:46,030 they produce a shower and cascade 854 00:36:46,030 --> 00:36:50,850 of additional ionization and high energy particles. 855 00:36:50,850 --> 00:36:54,870 So it's been said that solar flares and such will accelerate 856 00:36:54,870 --> 00:36:57,210 charged particles from the plasma 857 00:36:57,210 --> 00:36:58,890 in the sun towards Earth. 858 00:36:58,890 --> 00:37:02,100 They're deflected somewhat by the magnetic field 859 00:37:02,100 --> 00:37:05,510 of the Earth, but they tend to enter right here 860 00:37:05,510 --> 00:37:07,250 at the-- what is it? 861 00:37:07,250 --> 00:37:08,070 At the poles. 862 00:37:08,070 --> 00:37:11,210 I'm sorry, that's the simple word I was looking for. 863 00:37:11,210 --> 00:37:16,820 Until recently in 2001, they were looking specifically 864 00:37:16,820 --> 00:37:19,910 at the evidence for or against the idea that coronal mass 865 00:37:19,910 --> 00:37:22,820 ejections-- which means large ejections of mass from 866 00:37:22,820 --> 00:37:25,760 the outer layers, these sparcer layers of the sun-- 867 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:30,080 was responsible for most charged particles and cosmic rays. 868 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,110 Skipping the stuff that's not in bold, 869 00:37:32,110 --> 00:37:34,970 it appears to be that the CME bow shock 870 00:37:34,970 --> 00:37:37,250 scenario has been overvalued. 871 00:37:37,250 --> 00:37:38,720 So for a while, folks were saying 872 00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:42,020 most cosmic rays come from the sun-- that's our nearest star. 873 00:37:42,020 --> 00:37:46,250 By making really, really careful measurements of the energy 874 00:37:46,250 --> 00:37:47,690 and lifetime of these cosmic rays, 875 00:37:47,690 --> 00:37:49,970 this has actually been somewhat disproven 876 00:37:49,970 --> 00:37:52,970 that this is the major source of cosmic rays, which 877 00:37:52,970 --> 00:37:54,810 is pretty cool. 878 00:37:54,810 --> 00:37:57,560 But let's talk about where they actually come from. 879 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,530 Reactions that you can probably understand. 880 00:38:00,530 --> 00:38:03,290 So extremely high protons enter the atmosphere. 881 00:38:03,290 --> 00:38:05,660 They all start as high energy protons. 882 00:38:05,660 --> 00:38:08,150 And when protons are high enough energy-- 883 00:38:08,150 --> 00:38:10,430 and like I do probably in every class ever, 884 00:38:10,430 --> 00:38:13,900 I'm going to pull up Janis to show you something. 885 00:38:13,900 --> 00:38:16,690 They can undergo what's called spallation. 886 00:38:16,690 --> 00:38:19,570 It's the same principle that the Spallation Neutron 887 00:38:19,570 --> 00:38:21,910 Source at Oak Ridge National Lab works on 888 00:38:21,910 --> 00:38:24,610 is shoot in extremely high energy protons, 889 00:38:24,610 --> 00:38:26,690 out come neutrons. 890 00:38:26,690 --> 00:38:30,370 So as usual, it didn't clone the screen right. 891 00:38:30,370 --> 00:38:31,690 So just bear with me for a sec. 892 00:38:36,557 --> 00:38:38,890 I'd like to, for probably the first time in this course, 893 00:38:38,890 --> 00:38:42,425 switch databases to the incident proton data. 894 00:38:42,425 --> 00:38:43,512 Is that actually working? 895 00:38:43,512 --> 00:38:44,456 OK, good. 896 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,710 So we'll leave the incident neutron data, 897 00:38:50,710 --> 00:38:54,270 we'll go to the incident proton data. 898 00:38:54,270 --> 00:38:57,920 We'll stick with the same library. 899 00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,360 Let's see how much they have. 900 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,880 Not much, but enough to matter, because there's 901 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:07,240 a lot of nitrogen-14 up in the air. 902 00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:11,930 Let's see what happens when protons hit nitrogen-14 903 00:39:11,930 --> 00:39:13,180 all the way at high energy. 904 00:39:13,180 --> 00:39:16,910 So don't quite know what a negative cross-section refers 905 00:39:16,910 --> 00:39:17,410 to. 906 00:39:17,410 --> 00:39:22,190 But at high energies, this is definitely a possible event. 907 00:39:22,190 --> 00:39:24,540 And let's see, there's not a lot of cross-sections 908 00:39:24,540 --> 00:39:26,160 to look at here. 909 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,670 Let's try oxygen-16. 910 00:39:28,670 --> 00:39:30,620 Not much. 911 00:39:30,620 --> 00:39:32,760 We'll stick to the slides then. 912 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,520 So when a high energy proton strikes a nucleus, 913 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,290 it can eject neutrons. 914 00:39:37,290 --> 00:39:41,790 And those neutrons can then cause activation reactions, 915 00:39:41,790 --> 00:39:44,820 and then emit things like proton or tritium, leading to-- 916 00:39:44,820 --> 00:39:47,100 that's where your carbon-14 comes from. 917 00:39:47,100 --> 00:39:49,110 Comes from nitrogen-14. 918 00:39:49,110 --> 00:39:52,350 So in comes a high energy proton, releases a neutron. 919 00:39:52,350 --> 00:39:56,550 That neutron hits nitrogen-14, releases a proton, 920 00:39:56,550 --> 00:39:58,630 out comes carbon-14. 921 00:39:58,630 --> 00:40:01,170 So this is why it's being constantly generated 922 00:40:01,170 --> 00:40:02,020 in the atmosphere. 923 00:40:02,020 --> 00:40:03,812 It's not like there's a certain amount that 924 00:40:03,812 --> 00:40:06,270 was there at the beginning of the universe and decays, 925 00:40:06,270 --> 00:40:09,150 because its half life is only 5,700 years. 926 00:40:09,150 --> 00:40:11,370 So this is part of why radiocarbon dating works, 927 00:40:11,370 --> 00:40:13,615 because we have cosmic rays. 928 00:40:13,615 --> 00:40:15,240 It's kind of a neat connection to make. 929 00:40:15,240 --> 00:40:17,323 If there weren't cosmic rays, all of the carbon-14 930 00:40:17,323 --> 00:40:21,720 would decay pretty quickly in the universe time scale. 931 00:40:21,720 --> 00:40:25,350 And we wouldn't have this form of radiocarbon dating. 932 00:40:25,350 --> 00:40:28,320 And then same thing for tritium production in the atmosphere. 933 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,830 This is where some of that tritium naturally comes from, 934 00:40:30,830 --> 00:40:33,530 is it makes carbon-12-- which is the normal form of carbon-- 935 00:40:33,530 --> 00:40:36,080 but out come tritium, which there is going 936 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,750 to be some constant isotopic fraction of tritium in all 937 00:40:38,750 --> 00:40:40,760 the world's hydrogen. Some of it's being 938 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,670 generated in real time. 939 00:40:43,670 --> 00:40:45,860 And we do have these spallation sources on Earth. 940 00:40:45,860 --> 00:40:48,500 Like I mentioned, the Spallation Neutron Source 941 00:40:48,500 --> 00:40:50,570 has a gigantic synchrotron. 942 00:40:50,570 --> 00:40:53,930 We've seen these before, which just injects in this case 943 00:40:53,930 --> 00:40:58,100 protons, which circle around and around and around, accelerating 944 00:40:58,100 --> 00:41:02,570 until some of them are extracted and fire onto things 945 00:41:02,570 --> 00:41:06,740 like a liquid mercury target, some neutron rich liquid metal. 946 00:41:06,740 --> 00:41:09,050 So you want something that's very neutron rich. 947 00:41:09,050 --> 00:41:10,970 You want something that's very dense. 948 00:41:10,970 --> 00:41:13,670 You want something that's fluid so you can cool it better. 949 00:41:13,670 --> 00:41:16,070 And you want something with high thermal conductivity. 950 00:41:16,070 --> 00:41:17,990 That's where the metal comes in. 951 00:41:17,990 --> 00:41:20,420 So a liquid metal you can keep cool really well. 952 00:41:20,420 --> 00:41:23,900 Because when you're firing lots of 800 MeV protons into it, 953 00:41:23,900 --> 00:41:26,795 you generate a tremendous amount of heat. 954 00:41:26,795 --> 00:41:28,670 And this is what the actual thing looks like. 955 00:41:28,670 --> 00:41:30,980 You can get tours of this down in Tennessee 956 00:41:30,980 --> 00:41:32,948 at the Oak Ridge National Lab. 957 00:41:32,948 --> 00:41:34,490 Actually, I've driven up here before. 958 00:41:34,490 --> 00:41:36,350 I recognize this from the map. 959 00:41:36,350 --> 00:41:38,680 That's pretty cool. 960 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,560 So where the actual neutron science stuff 961 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,580 happens, where all the scientists sit 962 00:41:42,580 --> 00:41:44,580 with their targets, there's quite a bit of stuff 963 00:41:44,580 --> 00:41:46,050 going on behind it. 964 00:41:46,050 --> 00:41:47,910 So there is a gigantic-- 965 00:41:47,910 --> 00:41:50,960 you can see that's a parking lot for scale. 966 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,420 There's a gigantic linear accelerator 967 00:41:54,420 --> 00:41:57,090 shooting into the synchrotron ring, which 968 00:41:57,090 --> 00:41:59,130 then fires the protons here into the target 969 00:41:59,130 --> 00:42:03,720 into one of any number of end stations, which creates a not 970 00:42:03,720 --> 00:42:07,230 quite push button, but turn on-able pulsed neutron 971 00:42:07,230 --> 00:42:09,220 source, which is pretty slick. 972 00:42:09,220 --> 00:42:11,880 And again, parking lot for scale. 973 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,410 Takes a lot of magnets to bend an 800 MeV proton. 974 00:42:16,722 --> 00:42:18,180 That's what it actually looks like. 975 00:42:18,180 --> 00:42:21,670 Has anyone ever seen one of these synchrotrons? 976 00:42:21,670 --> 00:42:24,525 Like at Brookhaven or at Oak Ridge or at anywhere? 977 00:42:24,525 --> 00:42:25,900 They're quite interesting things. 978 00:42:25,900 --> 00:42:28,570 The closest one to us is the NSLS, 979 00:42:28,570 --> 00:42:30,700 or the National Synchrotron Light Source version 980 00:42:30,700 --> 00:42:32,620 two at Brookhaven National Lab. 981 00:42:32,620 --> 00:42:34,973 It's like a 2 and 1/2 hour drive down in Long Island. 982 00:42:34,973 --> 00:42:36,640 I don't know if they're doing tours yet, 983 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,770 but it's about a kilometer around. 984 00:42:38,770 --> 00:42:40,780 And I was told they did bike races around it 985 00:42:40,780 --> 00:42:42,447 to see who could beat the protons, which 986 00:42:42,447 --> 00:42:44,920 of course everybody loses. 987 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,200 But they are pretty insane collections 988 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:48,970 of magnets, vacuum equipment. 989 00:42:48,970 --> 00:42:53,140 And once in a while a proton will pass through. 990 00:42:53,140 --> 00:42:55,177 And then there's the spallation source itself. 991 00:42:55,177 --> 00:42:56,760 So this is what the target looks like. 992 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,040 There's going to have to be liquid metal cooled in. 993 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,892 And then out of here come lots and lots and lots of neutrons. 994 00:43:02,892 --> 00:43:04,350 Enough neutrons that you still need 995 00:43:04,350 --> 00:43:05,640 hot cells to deal with things. 996 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,630 They're still quite radioactive, inactivated. 997 00:43:07,630 --> 00:43:08,970 But it's not a reactor. 998 00:43:08,970 --> 00:43:11,220 Other ways of making neutrons. 999 00:43:11,220 --> 00:43:13,470 Speaking of, has anybody seen the pulsed fusion source 1000 00:43:13,470 --> 00:43:18,240 that we have down in Northwest 13? 1001 00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:18,870 No? 1002 00:43:18,870 --> 00:43:20,880 We have a pulse neutron source that you 1003 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,400 can come take a look at. 1004 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,133 It's an electrostatic fusion pulsed machine. 1005 00:43:26,133 --> 00:43:28,050 There's a whole bunch of tritium and deuterium 1006 00:43:28,050 --> 00:43:31,440 in this palladium sponge, what happens to hold hydrogen 1007 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,450 and its isotopes very well. 1008 00:43:33,450 --> 00:43:36,240 And with a very quick pulse, you can have a tiny pulse fusion 1009 00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:39,180 and generate about 10 to the 8th neutrons that actually is 1010 00:43:39,180 --> 00:43:41,100 a push button neutron source. 1011 00:43:41,100 --> 00:43:43,980 So if you want to see a neutron source beyond reactors, 1012 00:43:43,980 --> 00:43:45,510 go down to the vault in Northwest 13 1013 00:43:45,510 --> 00:43:47,070 and ask to see that. 1014 00:43:47,070 --> 00:43:48,780 We did a quick experiment before trying 1015 00:43:48,780 --> 00:43:51,510 to activate cell phones to see what was in them. 1016 00:43:51,510 --> 00:43:54,030 We did not generate enough neutrons to do so. 1017 00:43:54,030 --> 00:43:56,400 But this cell phone has definitely seen a few fusion 1018 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:57,842 neutron pulses. 1019 00:43:57,842 --> 00:43:59,550 And we checked later, it's not giving off 1020 00:43:59,550 --> 00:44:01,200 any residual radioactivity. 1021 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,200 At least we can measure. 1022 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,802 That was a fun failed experiment. 1023 00:44:05,802 --> 00:44:07,010 And then comes the craziness. 1024 00:44:07,010 --> 00:44:09,650 Since it's about five of, I want to get 1025 00:44:09,650 --> 00:44:12,450 into things that will definitely not be on the exam. 1026 00:44:12,450 --> 00:44:15,590 So just sit back and enjoy and stop taking notes. 1027 00:44:15,590 --> 00:44:18,740 Complete insanity can happen with super high energy 1028 00:44:18,740 --> 00:44:19,890 electrons. 1029 00:44:19,890 --> 00:44:23,520 We've already talked about Bremsstrahlung. 1030 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,220 We have talked about synchrotron radiation, where 1031 00:44:26,220 --> 00:44:29,170 you have a charged particle going along a magnetic field 1032 00:44:29,170 --> 00:44:29,670 line. 1033 00:44:29,670 --> 00:44:33,190 It changes direction and gives off X-rays. 1034 00:44:33,190 --> 00:44:37,660 We haven't talked about inverse Compton scattering. 1035 00:44:37,660 --> 00:44:40,465 Interesting process here. 1036 00:44:40,465 --> 00:44:43,550 In comes a low energy photon, hits an electron, 1037 00:44:43,550 --> 00:44:47,090 out comes a higher energy photon. 1038 00:44:47,090 --> 00:44:49,340 Compton scatterings usually think of as the other way 1039 00:44:49,340 --> 00:44:53,330 around, where a high energy photon comes in, scatters off 1040 00:44:53,330 --> 00:44:55,880 an electron, loses energy. 1041 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,190 In this case, a high energy electron 1042 00:44:58,190 --> 00:45:00,410 colliding with a low energy photon 1043 00:45:00,410 --> 00:45:04,858 can impart energy to the photon. 1044 00:45:04,858 --> 00:45:06,900 And you can actually calculate-- or in this case, 1045 00:45:06,900 --> 00:45:08,600 I've just taken from a paper-- 1046 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,140 the energy gain from inverse Compton scattering, 1047 00:45:12,140 --> 00:45:15,410 as well as whatever cross-section there is. 1048 00:45:15,410 --> 00:45:18,020 And even though this is a very infrequent process-- 1049 00:45:18,020 --> 00:45:19,825 well, the universe is pretty big, 1050 00:45:19,825 --> 00:45:21,200 and contains a lot of things that 1051 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,320 have magnetic fields like stars and black-- 1052 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,880 whatever else happens to have magnetic fields. 1053 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,630 And you can identify radio sources 1054 00:45:29,630 --> 00:45:33,050 by looking for these inverse Compton scattered X-rays. 1055 00:45:33,050 --> 00:45:36,030 So the Chandra X-ray map, I believe a piece of which 1056 00:45:36,030 --> 00:45:40,190 or a receiver for which is up in the building in Porter Square. 1057 00:45:40,190 --> 00:45:42,930 If you guys go down three stops on the red line, 1058 00:45:42,930 --> 00:45:45,530 you'll see this little area full of Japanese noodle 1059 00:45:45,530 --> 00:45:48,197 shops, Lesley University, a bunch of galleries. 1060 00:45:48,197 --> 00:45:48,905 And in a little-- 1061 00:45:51,742 --> 00:45:54,200 I think it's still there-- and a little sign that says, oh, 1062 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,080 and there's the Chandra X-ray Observatory. 1063 00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:57,668 Whatever. 1064 00:45:57,668 --> 00:45:59,210 They may or may not have moved, but I 1065 00:45:59,210 --> 00:46:02,430 recommend you check it out. 1066 00:46:02,430 --> 00:46:04,570 And then what happens to those electrons? 1067 00:46:04,570 --> 00:46:08,180 Well, they can actually decay. 1068 00:46:08,180 --> 00:46:09,840 Pretty interesting things. 1069 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,080 And so some of this inverse Compton scattering 1070 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,080 has gone into the evidence for or against where 1071 00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,690 cosmic rays come from, because you should 1072 00:46:17,690 --> 00:46:21,080 see electrons of a certain energy 1073 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:22,925 after undergoing this process. 1074 00:46:25,850 --> 00:46:27,020 I think I will skip ahead. 1075 00:46:27,020 --> 00:46:28,530 Oh, I won't skip ahead. 1076 00:46:28,530 --> 00:46:32,010 And so what these cosmic rays can produce 1077 00:46:32,010 --> 00:46:35,190 is what's called positive, negative, or neutral pions. 1078 00:46:35,190 --> 00:46:37,860 Other subatomic particles with masses somewhere 1079 00:46:37,860 --> 00:46:40,860 between protons and electrons that themselves 1080 00:46:40,860 --> 00:46:44,440 can undergo different reactions or different decays into muons. 1081 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,170 And don't worry, muons and pions and such 1082 00:46:46,170 --> 00:46:48,270 are not part of the topic of this course. 1083 00:46:48,270 --> 00:46:50,640 But they do have known lifetimes, 1084 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,782 they do have known masses and charges, 1085 00:46:52,782 --> 00:46:54,240 they do have known stopping powers. 1086 00:46:54,240 --> 00:46:56,040 We should be able to measure them. 1087 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,160 And there is a cosmic muon detector at Boston University. 1088 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,290 Or rather, it's a pair of detectors 1089 00:47:01,290 --> 00:47:03,690 that looks for this coincidence of one muon 1090 00:47:03,690 --> 00:47:06,150 scattering off one detector, or interacting, 1091 00:47:06,150 --> 00:47:08,970 and another particle being sensed directly beneath. 1092 00:47:08,970 --> 00:47:12,503 So we can actually sense these muons to confirm or refute 1093 00:47:12,503 --> 00:47:13,920 the theories about where they come 1094 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,140 from in terms of cosmic rays. 1095 00:47:17,140 --> 00:47:19,830 And these neutral pions are what end 1096 00:47:19,830 --> 00:47:21,840 up creating these gamma rays. 1097 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,570 I think they were around the 70 something MeV range. 1098 00:47:25,570 --> 00:47:27,540 So if these theories about them are correct, 1099 00:47:27,540 --> 00:47:29,730 we should be able to sense these gamma rays, 1100 00:47:29,730 --> 00:47:32,700 and sense how many of them there are as a function of energy. 1101 00:47:35,460 --> 00:47:36,810 That's not what I wanted to do. 1102 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:42,600 Let me recreate presentation mode, 1103 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,840 because this is definitely delving into the kind of stuff 1104 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,310 that, well, I'm not an expert in. 1105 00:47:50,110 --> 00:47:52,870 So a quick detour into subatomic physics. 1106 00:47:52,870 --> 00:47:55,570 You guys probably have heard of that protons and neutrons are 1107 00:47:55,570 --> 00:47:57,880 not the smallest building blocks of matter. 1108 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,330 They themselves can be composed of quarks and antiquarks 1109 00:48:01,330 --> 00:48:03,910 with different charges and different masses. 1110 00:48:03,910 --> 00:48:05,560 They're given different flavors. 1111 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,780 I don't know who came up with this terminology, 1112 00:48:07,780 --> 00:48:09,430 but it's kind of fun. 1113 00:48:09,430 --> 00:48:11,170 Things get kind of whimsical when 1114 00:48:11,170 --> 00:48:13,420 you get into subatomic physics. 1115 00:48:13,420 --> 00:48:17,290 And these quarks and the gluons between them 1116 00:48:17,290 --> 00:48:20,230 are what composes protons, neutrons, in their antimatter 1117 00:48:20,230 --> 00:48:23,100 counterparts. 1118 00:48:23,100 --> 00:48:26,550 And these sorts of things can also undergo their own decay 1119 00:48:26,550 --> 00:48:27,340 and reactions. 1120 00:48:27,340 --> 00:48:30,480 So when beta decay occurs, it's actually 1121 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,000 one of these up quarks turning into a down quark 1122 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,360 and releasing an electron and an antineutrino. 1123 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:40,050 But again, we're not going to delve even deeper into this. 1124 00:48:40,050 --> 00:48:43,080 There are other particles composed of other arrangements 1125 00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:44,380 of quarks. 1126 00:48:44,380 --> 00:48:48,780 So if you have just an up and a down, you have a positive pion. 1127 00:48:48,780 --> 00:48:50,020 Which should have a charge-- 1128 00:48:50,020 --> 00:48:53,580 I think one's 2/3 of one's minus 1/3. 1129 00:48:53,580 --> 00:48:54,990 Yep, that is correct. 1130 00:48:54,990 --> 00:48:58,800 So a plus pion should have a charge of 1/3 1131 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,420 the charge of an electron. 1132 00:49:00,420 --> 00:49:02,370 So if you know the mass of some particle 1133 00:49:02,370 --> 00:49:04,260 because you know the number of quarks, 1134 00:49:04,260 --> 00:49:06,090 and you know the charge of it, you 1135 00:49:06,090 --> 00:49:08,873 should be able to calculate its own stopping power. 1136 00:49:08,873 --> 00:49:10,290 And figure out how many should get 1137 00:49:10,290 --> 00:49:12,270 through the atmosphere and such, or how many 1138 00:49:12,270 --> 00:49:14,800 get absorbed in your detector. 1139 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,310 And so when a very high energy proton collides 1140 00:49:17,310 --> 00:49:20,070 with an atmospheric molecule, it creates neutrons, 1141 00:49:20,070 --> 00:49:22,140 creates a shower of pions. 1142 00:49:22,140 --> 00:49:26,400 These neutral pions-- much like electron positron interaction-- 1143 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:30,130 can produce their own gammas. 1144 00:49:30,130 --> 00:49:32,400 So they can spontaneously decay from particles 1145 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,450 that are mass into gamma rays of pure energy. 1146 00:49:36,450 --> 00:49:40,140 Which then go on to create their own shower of electrons 1147 00:49:40,140 --> 00:49:42,420 and positrons by pair production. 1148 00:49:42,420 --> 00:49:45,540 Because as we saw, the higher in energy you go for photons, 1149 00:49:45,540 --> 00:49:48,120 the more likely pair production becomes. 1150 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:49,660 And there you have it. 1151 00:49:49,660 --> 00:49:54,820 This is part of the 22.01 stuff, but taken to the nth degree. 1152 00:49:54,820 --> 00:49:56,460 And then the evidence for pion decay 1153 00:49:56,460 --> 00:49:59,670 comes from extremely fine measurements 1154 00:49:59,670 --> 00:50:03,660 of the number of these pions as a function of energy. 1155 00:50:03,660 --> 00:50:04,910 Or in this case, look at that. 1156 00:50:04,910 --> 00:50:08,110 They're-- what is it-- ergs per centimeter squared per second. 1157 00:50:08,110 --> 00:50:09,765 What does that unit physically mean? 1158 00:50:12,125 --> 00:50:13,250 Not going to get into that. 1159 00:50:13,250 --> 00:50:16,120 But at any rate, there are different models 1160 00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:20,050 for how many of these pions or their high energy gamma 1161 00:50:20,050 --> 00:50:22,085 decay products should be observed. 1162 00:50:22,085 --> 00:50:23,710 And by looking at those very carefully, 1163 00:50:23,710 --> 00:50:26,710 you can tell where they came from. 1164 00:50:26,710 --> 00:50:29,680 Should they have come from coronal mass discharges, 1165 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,930 so we should know what energy those protons should be, 1166 00:50:31,930 --> 00:50:33,675 or some other source 1167 00:50:33,675 --> 00:50:36,820 But I am going to stop there, because it is five of. 1168 00:50:36,820 --> 00:50:40,540 So after that crazy detour, give you guys 10 minutes to degas 1169 00:50:40,540 --> 00:50:44,440 and absorb some neutral pion gamma decay products. 1170 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,910 We'll meet upstairs in 10 minutes for an exam review.