1 00:00:00,500 --> 00:00:02,940 The following content is provided under a Creative 2 00:00:02,940 --> 00:00:04,270 Commons license. 3 00:00:04,270 --> 00:00:06,780 Your support will help MIT OpenCourseWare 4 00:00:06,780 --> 00:00:11,030 continue to offer high-quality educational resources for free. 5 00:00:11,030 --> 00:00:13,770 To make a donation or view additional materials 6 00:00:13,770 --> 00:00:17,250 from hundreds of MIT courses, visit MIT OpenCourseWare 7 00:00:17,250 --> 00:00:20,412 at ocw.mit.edu. 8 00:00:20,412 --> 00:00:21,870 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Today's recitation 9 00:00:21,870 --> 00:00:26,910 will all stem from this reading by Youngman and Green 10 00:00:26,910 --> 00:00:28,650 on ribosome purification. 11 00:00:28,650 --> 00:00:31,606 But also, we posted an optional-- well, 12 00:00:31,606 --> 00:00:33,480 not really optional but an additional reading 13 00:00:33,480 --> 00:00:38,100 that's a review that talks about purifying macromolecular 14 00:00:38,100 --> 00:00:39,342 machines from the source. 15 00:00:39,342 --> 00:00:40,800 And I guess one thing I'd just like 16 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,100 to say about this review, something 17 00:00:43,100 --> 00:00:46,530 I like is figure three because it indicates 18 00:00:46,530 --> 00:00:49,140 many, many different types of methods that can be used 19 00:00:49,140 --> 00:00:51,812 to purify some biomolecule. 20 00:00:51,812 --> 00:00:55,030 And I think often it's easy just to think all the time, 21 00:00:55,030 --> 00:00:56,450 well, let's just use a tag. 22 00:00:56,450 --> 00:00:58,970 And tags have enabled many things, 23 00:00:58,970 --> 00:01:00,780 but there's also many possibilities 24 00:01:00,780 --> 00:01:03,150 out there and decades worth of work 25 00:01:03,150 --> 00:01:05,310 before tags for how to purify proteins. 26 00:01:05,310 --> 00:01:07,680 And in some instances, you might not want to use a tag 27 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,630 and that's discussed to some degree here. 28 00:01:10,630 --> 00:01:12,780 So I guess I'm curious. 29 00:01:12,780 --> 00:01:15,690 What did you all think about this week's paper? 30 00:01:15,690 --> 00:01:16,830 Did you like it? 31 00:01:16,830 --> 00:01:17,760 Did you not like it? 32 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,710 Was it easy to hard read? 33 00:01:27,300 --> 00:01:28,990 Did you read the paper? 34 00:01:35,295 --> 00:01:37,235 AUDIENCE: It wasn't too bad. 35 00:01:37,235 --> 00:01:38,036 I've purified-- 36 00:01:38,036 --> 00:01:39,660 JOANNE STUBBE: You need to speak louder 37 00:01:39,660 --> 00:01:40,630 because I can't hear you. 38 00:01:40,630 --> 00:01:41,796 AUDIENCE: It wasn't too bad. 39 00:01:41,796 --> 00:01:43,898 I've purified proteins before, so I 40 00:01:43,898 --> 00:01:47,090 felt like I could follow along. 41 00:01:47,090 --> 00:01:49,820 ELIZABETH NOLAN: So not too bad means 42 00:01:49,820 --> 00:01:53,620 it was easy to understand and follow the text there. 43 00:01:53,620 --> 00:01:57,420 Yeah, so compared to the reading for recitations two and three, 44 00:01:57,420 --> 00:02:00,420 this one was probably easier to work with, 45 00:02:00,420 --> 00:02:03,780 but there's a lot of details in this one too there. 46 00:02:03,780 --> 00:02:06,870 One thing, I guess, I like this paper from the standpoint of it 47 00:02:06,870 --> 00:02:10,710 being a methods paper, is the amount of detail 48 00:02:10,710 --> 00:02:14,640 they give with how they did this purification and things that 49 00:02:14,640 --> 00:02:16,230 didn't work, right? 50 00:02:16,230 --> 00:02:19,980 So often, sharing those details with your readers 51 00:02:19,980 --> 00:02:23,480 can make such difference for an experimentalist 52 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,220 in another lab in another part of the world, right? 53 00:02:26,220 --> 00:02:30,510 And I think, from this, one with biochemistry training 54 00:02:30,510 --> 00:02:34,420 could go into the lab and reproduce their purification 55 00:02:34,420 --> 00:02:34,920 there. 56 00:02:34,920 --> 00:02:38,340 So it's a good example in terms of what details to include 57 00:02:38,340 --> 00:02:41,810 and what types of pitfalls to include. 58 00:02:41,810 --> 00:02:44,970 So how many of you have done a protein purification, 59 00:02:44,970 --> 00:02:48,312 either in a lab class or in your research? 60 00:02:48,312 --> 00:02:49,280 OK. 61 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,920 And so what type of purification did you use? 62 00:02:52,920 --> 00:02:56,647 AUDIENCE: We used a histamine-tag with nickel. 63 00:02:56,647 --> 00:02:57,480 ELIZABETH NOLAN: OK. 64 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,720 So you used a His6-tag, probably a polyhistamine tag 65 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:02,370 in a nickel NTA column. 66 00:03:02,370 --> 00:03:05,220 For everyone else, has it been that type of methodology 67 00:03:05,220 --> 00:03:06,450 or another methodology? 68 00:03:06,450 --> 00:03:07,845 AUDIENCE: I used the same one. 69 00:03:07,845 --> 00:03:09,050 ELIZABETH NOLAN: OK. 70 00:03:09,050 --> 00:03:09,550 OK. 71 00:03:09,550 --> 00:03:12,750 So would someone like to kind of comment 72 00:03:12,750 --> 00:03:15,890 on the basics of affinity tag purification? 73 00:03:15,890 --> 00:03:16,950 So how does this work? 74 00:03:21,530 --> 00:03:23,210 And why did you do it? 75 00:03:23,210 --> 00:03:25,400 So what are the advantages? 76 00:03:31,601 --> 00:03:33,300 AUDIENCE: So you have a light chain 77 00:03:33,300 --> 00:03:36,950 of histamines on your protein, and you 78 00:03:36,950 --> 00:03:40,680 use nickel, which is a metal that chelates 79 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,640 to histamine very well. 80 00:03:47,447 --> 00:03:48,030 Is that right? 81 00:03:48,030 --> 00:03:48,540 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Yeah. 82 00:03:48,540 --> 00:03:50,164 The nickel's bound to something though. 83 00:03:50,164 --> 00:03:52,125 You have the NTA ligand on the resin. 84 00:03:57,157 --> 00:03:58,698 AUDIENCE: I did this over a year ago. 85 00:03:58,698 --> 00:03:59,670 Sorry. 86 00:03:59,670 --> 00:04:02,690 AUDIENCE: So if you have whatever 87 00:04:02,690 --> 00:04:06,810 the type is, the [INAUDIBLE] bound to some solid substrate. 88 00:04:06,810 --> 00:04:09,300 And then you can elute everything 89 00:04:09,300 --> 00:04:11,300 that's not bond to that. 90 00:04:11,300 --> 00:04:12,690 Elute what it does bind. 91 00:04:12,690 --> 00:04:13,857 So you just tag the protein. 92 00:04:13,857 --> 00:04:15,273 It's bound to a high concentration 93 00:04:15,273 --> 00:04:16,107 of the free ligand. 94 00:04:19,110 --> 00:04:20,860 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Or right, to push it off. 95 00:04:20,860 --> 00:04:25,390 So the idea is that you have your biomolecule of interest, 96 00:04:25,390 --> 00:04:28,100 whether that be a protein, which is what we're all 97 00:04:28,100 --> 00:04:31,060 most familiar with, or the ribosome, 98 00:04:31,060 --> 00:04:32,620 and then you attach a tag. 99 00:04:32,620 --> 00:04:34,900 And that tag can be any number of things, right? 100 00:04:34,900 --> 00:04:38,050 So in this paper, we saw they used a stem loop structure 101 00:04:38,050 --> 00:04:41,505 incorporated into the 23s rRNA. 102 00:04:41,505 --> 00:04:42,880 And the idea is that you're going 103 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:47,980 to use that tag to separate your biomolecule of interest 104 00:04:47,980 --> 00:04:51,610 from the complexity of the cellular environment 105 00:04:51,610 --> 00:04:53,840 there, so all of the other proteins. 106 00:04:53,840 --> 00:04:56,530 And so you have some bead or resin 107 00:04:56,530 --> 00:04:58,130 that this tag can bind to. 108 00:04:58,130 --> 00:04:59,680 So in the case of the nickel column, 109 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:04,370 the His6-tag will bind to the nickel NTA on the resin. 110 00:05:04,370 --> 00:05:07,330 And then you can wash away other components. 111 00:05:07,330 --> 00:05:11,650 And then you devise some method to elute the protein 112 00:05:11,650 --> 00:05:14,380 you hope to have trapped there. 113 00:05:14,380 --> 00:05:17,740 So what are some advantages of using an affinity tag, 114 00:05:17,740 --> 00:05:19,210 just thinking about this generally 115 00:05:19,210 --> 00:05:20,620 before we delve into the paper? 116 00:05:25,380 --> 00:05:27,417 AUDIENCE: Easy to install. 117 00:05:27,417 --> 00:05:28,250 ELIZABETH NOLAN: OK. 118 00:05:28,250 --> 00:05:31,803 So what do you mean by easy to install? 119 00:05:31,803 --> 00:05:33,775 AUDIENCE: If you wanted to just encode 120 00:05:33,775 --> 00:05:40,184 a 6 His-tag at the terminus of your target protein, 121 00:05:40,184 --> 00:05:42,170 I don't know if you can say it's trivial. 122 00:05:42,170 --> 00:05:43,089 It's easy. 123 00:05:43,089 --> 00:05:44,630 ELIZABETH NOLAN: I'd agree it's easy. 124 00:05:44,630 --> 00:05:46,600 There's many plasmids available that you 125 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,020 can insert your gene of interest into in order to have 126 00:05:50,020 --> 00:05:51,820 this tag genetically encoded. 127 00:05:51,820 --> 00:05:54,610 So when you express the protein, the tag's there. 128 00:05:54,610 --> 00:05:58,440 So beyond that, from the standpoint of purification-- 129 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,280 AUDIENCE: It's more specific. 130 00:06:01,280 --> 00:06:02,280 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Pardon? 131 00:06:02,280 --> 00:06:03,400 AUDIENCE: It's more specific. 132 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:04,733 ELIZABETH NOLAN: More specific-- 133 00:06:04,733 --> 00:06:08,960 AUDIENCE: Pure proteins as opposed to various charges. 134 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,050 AUDIENCE: It simplifies the purification. 135 00:06:11,050 --> 00:06:13,976 Instead of doing size exclusion and ion exchange 136 00:06:13,976 --> 00:06:15,850 that is much different. 137 00:06:15,850 --> 00:06:18,790 ELIZABETH NOLAN: So the hope is it simplifies the purification 138 00:06:18,790 --> 00:06:20,890 because you have some way initially 139 00:06:20,890 --> 00:06:26,620 to pull your protein of interest out of your cell lysate there. 140 00:06:26,620 --> 00:06:30,040 So that can be a big help. 141 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,790 What are some potential disadvantages of using a tag? 142 00:06:32,790 --> 00:06:36,086 So have any of you run into trouble with a tag in the lab? 143 00:06:36,086 --> 00:06:38,882 AUDIENCE: Having a tag can highly deform your protein 144 00:06:38,882 --> 00:06:39,724 and change it. 145 00:06:39,724 --> 00:06:40,640 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Yeah. 146 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,120 So it might change your protein or deform it. 147 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,262 What do you mean by "deform?" 148 00:06:45,262 --> 00:06:47,617 AUDIENCE: It could just cause a conformation change 149 00:06:47,617 --> 00:06:51,251 or the tag could make it localize somewhere else based 150 00:06:51,251 --> 00:06:52,794 on size. 151 00:06:52,794 --> 00:06:53,710 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Yeah. 152 00:06:53,710 --> 00:06:57,520 So that's an example, say if you were doing a study in cells, 153 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:58,870 say, rather than a purification. 154 00:06:58,870 --> 00:07:00,286 But maybe you tag a protein and it 155 00:07:00,286 --> 00:07:03,250 goes somewhere other than it would go untagged right? 156 00:07:03,250 --> 00:07:05,920 And that will affect your observations 157 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,050 and your data there. 158 00:07:08,050 --> 00:07:09,670 And it might alter the conformation. 159 00:07:09,670 --> 00:07:11,650 So it might affect the folding, right? 160 00:07:11,650 --> 00:07:14,660 It might affect the oligomerization. 161 00:07:14,660 --> 00:07:17,020 His-tags bind metal ions. 162 00:07:17,020 --> 00:07:22,140 So is that a factor to consider there? 163 00:07:22,140 --> 00:07:26,910 If you have an enzyme, will the tag affect activity, right? 164 00:07:26,910 --> 00:07:29,020 And these things can be a positive or a negative. 165 00:07:29,020 --> 00:07:32,500 Sometimes the tag is helpful in these regards. 166 00:07:32,500 --> 00:07:36,670 You can't get soluble protein without the tag, right? 167 00:07:36,670 --> 00:07:38,800 And sometimes the reverse. 168 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,190 You decide to express your protein or biomolecule 169 00:07:42,190 --> 00:07:45,520 with a tag and you find out you get an aggregate, something 170 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,360 that the protein shouldn't be. 171 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:51,580 So these are just things to keep in mind when designing a fusion 172 00:07:51,580 --> 00:07:54,040 protein and thinking about how you're 173 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:58,450 going to use an affinity tag to express your protein there 174 00:07:58,450 --> 00:08:00,820 and purify your protein. 175 00:08:00,820 --> 00:08:03,280 So there's pluses and minuses, right? 176 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,550 And you can always make the choice not to use a tag. 177 00:08:06,550 --> 00:08:11,110 So you saw some of that in the review article, right? 178 00:08:11,110 --> 00:08:13,390 And I guess one other thing, too, there's 179 00:08:13,390 --> 00:08:16,392 this idea of using the affinity tag in the affinity column, 180 00:08:16,392 --> 00:08:18,850 which we'll talk about more in the context of the ribosome, 181 00:08:18,850 --> 00:08:20,650 but is that always enough? 182 00:08:20,650 --> 00:08:24,250 So is the affinity column alone always enough 183 00:08:24,250 --> 00:08:27,520 to purify your protein of interest? 184 00:08:38,380 --> 00:08:40,600 So in lab class, that's where it will end, 185 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,000 because that's an exercise made for lab class, 186 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,880 and it's your first adventure into protein purification 187 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:47,620 for most people, right? 188 00:08:47,620 --> 00:08:49,900 Oftentimes, it's not enough. 189 00:08:49,900 --> 00:08:53,590 That you do enrich what you've purified with what you want, 190 00:08:53,590 --> 00:08:55,000 but often there's contaminants. 191 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,460 So you actually do move forward with doing some other type 192 00:08:57,460 --> 00:08:58,360 of purification. 193 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:02,470 Like Rebecca mentioned, ion exchange or size exclusion, 194 00:09:02,470 --> 00:09:06,190 those are things you can use after the affinity purification 195 00:09:06,190 --> 00:09:08,830 there as needed, right? 196 00:09:08,830 --> 00:09:13,144 So contaminations are something to look out for here. 197 00:09:13,144 --> 00:09:14,810 JOANNE STUBBE: What other types of steps 198 00:09:14,810 --> 00:09:17,218 do you use for purification besides columns 199 00:09:17,218 --> 00:09:19,960 and [INAUDIBLE]. 200 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,530 Because people have forgotten all of this. 201 00:09:22,530 --> 00:09:26,081 Everybody uses the tag and that's the end of it, 202 00:09:26,081 --> 00:09:28,740 and it can be the kiss of death. 203 00:09:28,740 --> 00:09:30,640 What other kind of fractionation steps? 204 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,780 Do you do any other fractionation steps? 205 00:09:32,780 --> 00:09:35,050 What is it, 535 or something? 206 00:09:37,606 --> 00:09:38,730 AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] salt. 207 00:09:38,730 --> 00:09:39,640 JOANNE STUBBE: The what? 208 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,056 AUDIENCE: The [INAUDIBLE] salt. So 209 00:09:41,056 --> 00:09:42,700 some proteins will precipitate. 210 00:09:42,700 --> 00:09:43,687 Some will not. 211 00:09:43,687 --> 00:09:44,520 JOANNE STUBBE: Yeah. 212 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,310 So that's what you use to precipitate. 213 00:09:46,310 --> 00:09:48,920 So that's a mild method. 214 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:49,960 It's fast. 215 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:55,190 It gives you separation on a fair amount of proteins. 216 00:09:55,190 --> 00:09:57,655 Anybody know what you use? 217 00:09:57,655 --> 00:09:58,780 AUDIENCE: Ammonium sulfate. 218 00:09:58,780 --> 00:10:00,450 JOANNE STUBBE: Yeah, ammonium sulfate. 219 00:10:00,450 --> 00:10:03,330 And then what's the other thing that really is important? 220 00:10:03,330 --> 00:10:05,830 What is the other thing you want to remove from your protein 221 00:10:05,830 --> 00:10:09,822 when you're using this tag that oftentimes people miss 222 00:10:09,822 --> 00:10:10,975 in the literature? 223 00:10:10,975 --> 00:10:12,850 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Yeah, we were getting there. 224 00:10:12,850 --> 00:10:15,183 JOANNE STUBBE: There's another component inside the cell 225 00:10:15,183 --> 00:10:18,751 that you need to get rid of that you've been talking about. 226 00:10:18,751 --> 00:10:22,202 AUDIENCE: Where one component has His-tag on the cell, 227 00:10:22,202 --> 00:10:24,522 you remove it. 228 00:10:24,522 --> 00:10:26,146 JOANNE STUBBE: So you have the protein. 229 00:10:26,146 --> 00:10:28,118 What are the other components in the cell 230 00:10:28,118 --> 00:10:30,090 that you need to remove? 231 00:10:30,090 --> 00:10:32,062 You can go back and look at your cartoon 232 00:10:32,062 --> 00:10:34,604 of the inside of the cell. 233 00:10:34,604 --> 00:10:35,520 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Yeah. 234 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,560 So we're getting a little ahead, but that's totally fine. 235 00:10:38,560 --> 00:10:43,140 So if you're going to lyse your cell, and then, 236 00:10:43,140 --> 00:10:45,540 imagine your protein's soluble, right? 237 00:10:45,540 --> 00:10:48,090 So you do a centrifugation to remove 238 00:10:48,090 --> 00:10:49,500 the insoluble components. 239 00:10:49,500 --> 00:10:51,690 So you have the membrane and all that debris. 240 00:10:51,690 --> 00:10:53,790 And then you take your soluble fraction, 241 00:10:53,790 --> 00:10:57,000 and you incubate that on your column, right? 242 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,367 And then you elute, you wash, you elute your protein. 243 00:11:00,367 --> 00:11:01,950 What might come out with your protein? 244 00:11:04,590 --> 00:11:05,650 AUDIENCE: Nucleic acid. 245 00:11:05,650 --> 00:11:06,858 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Yeah, right. 246 00:11:06,858 --> 00:11:10,866 So how do you know if you have nucleic acid contaminating? 247 00:11:10,866 --> 00:11:12,442 AUDIENCE: The A260. 248 00:11:12,442 --> 00:11:13,400 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Right. 249 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,810 So A260 will give you a readout of nucleic acids. 250 00:11:16,810 --> 00:11:19,549 A280 is what people typically look at for their protein 251 00:11:19,549 --> 00:11:21,590 concentration, but you should look at both so you 252 00:11:21,590 --> 00:11:23,249 know what's in your protein. 253 00:11:23,249 --> 00:11:24,290 You need to look at both. 254 00:11:24,290 --> 00:11:26,282 JOANNE STUBBE: Do that and adaptively 255 00:11:26,282 --> 00:11:27,740 repeat stuff out of the literature. 256 00:11:27,740 --> 00:11:30,270 Very frequently, you take an absorption spectrum, 257 00:11:30,270 --> 00:11:31,460 there's some nucleic acid. 258 00:11:31,460 --> 00:11:33,126 ELIZABETH NOLAN: You have contamination. 259 00:11:33,126 --> 00:11:34,370 So a lot of ribosome, DNA. 260 00:11:34,370 --> 00:11:36,740 JOANNE STUBBE: If you don't remember anything else, 261 00:11:36,740 --> 00:11:37,580 it's important. 262 00:11:37,580 --> 00:11:38,840 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Yeah. 263 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,150 So sure, just something to think about. 264 00:11:42,150 --> 00:11:47,882 So Alex noted, it's easy to put on this His-tag. 265 00:11:47,882 --> 00:11:50,780 What is actually on this His-tagged protein? 266 00:11:50,780 --> 00:11:54,077 So is it just the six histidines are all the same? 267 00:11:54,077 --> 00:11:55,910 When you look in the literature, and someone 268 00:11:55,910 --> 00:12:02,040 says they put a His-tag on the N terminus of their protein, 269 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:03,220 how do you think about that? 270 00:12:10,684 --> 00:12:16,900 So we have some His6-tag, and then 271 00:12:16,900 --> 00:12:24,050 that tag, say, is attached to the protein here. 272 00:12:24,050 --> 00:12:25,225 What's going on in between? 273 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,350 AUDIENCE: Maybe a flexible linker of some kind. 274 00:12:31,350 --> 00:12:32,350 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Pardon? 275 00:12:32,350 --> 00:12:33,280 AUDIENCE: It would be like a-- 276 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,140 I don't know-- like a flexible linker of some kind. 277 00:12:35,140 --> 00:12:35,390 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Yeah. 278 00:12:35,390 --> 00:12:37,340 So maybe some kind of flexible linker. 279 00:12:37,340 --> 00:12:39,680 And what might dictate this linker? 280 00:12:47,616 --> 00:12:49,600 AUDIENCE: If you wanted to remove the His-tag 281 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,452 after you would want to be able to hydrolyze it or something. 282 00:12:53,452 --> 00:12:54,910 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Yeah, so maybe you 283 00:12:54,910 --> 00:12:57,220 want to remove your tag down the road, right? 284 00:12:57,220 --> 00:12:59,770 So a protease is often employed. 285 00:12:59,770 --> 00:13:04,750 So maybe there's a linker, maybe there's a protease cleavage 286 00:13:04,750 --> 00:13:05,250 site. 287 00:13:09,980 --> 00:13:12,321 OK. 288 00:13:12,321 --> 00:13:12,820 OK. 289 00:13:12,820 --> 00:13:15,840 And we're not going to talk about cloning really 290 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:20,650 in this class, but just thinking back a step, 291 00:13:20,650 --> 00:13:24,970 you need some plasmid DNA to ultimately get here 292 00:13:24,970 --> 00:13:29,240 that has your gene, right? 293 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,260 And so you'll insert the gene into the plasmid, 294 00:13:32,260 --> 00:13:34,390 and many commercial plasmids have something 295 00:13:34,390 --> 00:13:36,260 called multiple cloning site. 296 00:13:36,260 --> 00:13:39,640 And, for instance, if you want a His-tag or a GST tag, 297 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,650 you'll use some different plasmid 298 00:13:41,650 --> 00:13:43,720 that has that encoded, right? 299 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,350 And then you make a decision about how you put your gene in. 300 00:13:47,350 --> 00:13:49,390 And these multiple cloning sites have 301 00:13:49,390 --> 00:13:51,430 multiple sites for restriction enzymes 302 00:13:51,430 --> 00:13:54,250 where you can put the gene in, which means, 303 00:13:54,250 --> 00:13:58,710 even if the same plasmid is used for 10 different proteins, 304 00:13:58,710 --> 00:14:02,200 what's happening here can vary a lot 305 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,380 even if you have one protein and put it in different sites. 306 00:14:05,380 --> 00:14:09,880 So maybe you have a short linker here because you 307 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:14,301 used a site like NDE1 or SPE1, I'm just making those up, 308 00:14:14,301 --> 00:14:14,800 right? 309 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,350 Or maybe you have a longer region here 310 00:14:17,350 --> 00:14:19,110 between the tag and the protein. 311 00:14:19,110 --> 00:14:21,700 And so it's very important to go look back 312 00:14:21,700 --> 00:14:24,580 at the map of the plasmid that was used and ask 313 00:14:24,580 --> 00:14:27,550 where was the gene put in and what does that mean? 314 00:14:27,550 --> 00:14:30,730 So is this His-tag a 2 kilodalton perturbation. 315 00:14:30,730 --> 00:14:33,940 Is it a 5 kilodalton perterbation to your protein? 316 00:14:33,940 --> 00:14:39,520 And some of these plasmids have multiple types of tags, right? 317 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,070 So it might have a GST tag and a His-tag, 318 00:14:42,070 --> 00:14:45,610 and depending how you put your gene in, you may have two 319 00:14:45,610 --> 00:14:47,620 or you may have only one, right? 320 00:14:47,620 --> 00:14:50,119 So I'm just pointing out there's a complexity here. 321 00:14:50,119 --> 00:14:51,910 So when someone just writes in their paper, 322 00:14:51,910 --> 00:14:53,710 oh, I His-tagged the protein, you 323 00:14:53,710 --> 00:14:56,740 need to think beyond just sticking six histamine residues 324 00:14:56,740 --> 00:14:58,480 on the N or C terminus there. 325 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,358 Did you have a question? 326 00:15:00,358 --> 00:15:03,047 AUDIENCE: So does that mean that's like another step where 327 00:15:03,047 --> 00:15:06,226 they purified the specific plumbing site, 328 00:15:06,226 --> 00:15:07,693 one that they wanted? 329 00:15:07,693 --> 00:15:11,130 Or does that mean you kind of roll with the heterogeneous-- 330 00:15:11,130 --> 00:15:12,490 ELIZABETH NOLAN: No. 331 00:15:12,490 --> 00:15:16,090 So you put your gene in particular sites 332 00:15:16,090 --> 00:15:18,260 with this type of cloning, right? 333 00:15:18,260 --> 00:15:24,280 And so one thing practically, just say 334 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,100 you want to express some new protein 335 00:15:26,100 --> 00:15:27,880 and you don't know much about this. 336 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,120 You might choose to make several different constructs where 337 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,760 you put the gene in different sites 338 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:37,300 or maybe you use primers that allow you to add some linker 339 00:15:37,300 --> 00:15:39,910 regions because you don't know what will give you better 340 00:15:39,910 --> 00:15:42,420 solubility and better yield. 341 00:15:42,420 --> 00:15:45,730 And then ultimately, you pick one. 342 00:15:45,730 --> 00:15:52,760 So, for instance, like for me, with working with, say, 343 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:56,650 a His-tag for a protein, there's plenty of plasmids 344 00:15:56,650 --> 00:16:00,040 available where you can pick N terminus or C terminus. 345 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,770 So one plasmid to put the tag on the N terminus. 346 00:16:02,770 --> 00:16:05,530 A different plasmid to put the tag on the C terminus. 347 00:16:05,530 --> 00:16:08,890 I'll clone the gene into both and test overexpression 348 00:16:08,890 --> 00:16:11,020 with both and just see if one's better 349 00:16:11,020 --> 00:16:15,070 than the other in terms of yield, in terms of solubility 350 00:16:15,070 --> 00:16:16,180 there. 351 00:16:16,180 --> 00:16:17,800 And then you make a call. 352 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,430 Maybe you purify both and see if there is an effect on behavior, 353 00:16:21,430 --> 00:16:25,670 like oligomerization or activity if it's an enzyme here. 354 00:16:25,670 --> 00:16:28,436 So if you get into protein purification, 355 00:16:28,436 --> 00:16:30,310 it's good to talk to people who have purified 356 00:16:30,310 --> 00:16:33,320 many different proteins because the strategy is 357 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,300 a little different for each protein. 358 00:16:35,300 --> 00:16:37,270 And then you just get more exposure 359 00:16:37,270 --> 00:16:42,810 to all of the possibilities and troubleshooting there. 360 00:16:42,810 --> 00:16:49,000 So coming to the paper, what was the big motivation 361 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:53,920 for developing this method to have an affinity tag attached 362 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,140 to the ribosome? 363 00:16:57,140 --> 00:16:57,640 Right? 364 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,030 So Youngman and Green went to quite a bit of effort 365 00:17:01,030 --> 00:17:02,320 to devise this new system. 366 00:17:04,877 --> 00:17:05,960 What was their motivation? 367 00:17:10,055 --> 00:17:19,420 And what really was the big issue 368 00:17:19,420 --> 00:17:22,882 they were seeking to overcome? 369 00:17:22,882 --> 00:17:26,340 AUDIENCE: They wanted to get ribosomes with mutations on it. 370 00:17:26,340 --> 00:17:30,084 So they want to synthesize bacteria ribosomes with it 371 00:17:30,084 --> 00:17:30,964 and purify it. 372 00:17:30,964 --> 00:17:31,880 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Yeah. 373 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:33,740 So they want a mutant ribosome. 374 00:17:38,270 --> 00:17:40,860 And they want to make this mutant ribosome 375 00:17:40,860 --> 00:17:47,810 in vivo and then purify. 376 00:17:50,420 --> 00:17:54,750 So what's the complication with making the mutant ribosome 377 00:17:54,750 --> 00:17:59,948 in vivo that they seek to overcome here? 378 00:17:59,948 --> 00:18:03,260 AUDIENCE: You have the wild-type ribosomes in there also. 379 00:18:03,260 --> 00:18:04,729 ELIZABETH NOLAN: So well, right. 380 00:18:04,729 --> 00:18:06,020 That was their decision, right? 381 00:18:06,020 --> 00:18:09,560 They want to express this mutant ribosome in the background 382 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,000 of the wild-type ribosome. 383 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,048 So why do they want to do that? 384 00:18:14,048 --> 00:18:15,952 AUDIENCE: Because it could be lethal. 385 00:18:15,952 --> 00:18:20,712 The mutant ribosome, it would be a toxic mutant. 386 00:18:20,712 --> 00:18:22,910 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Yeah, toxic mutant. 387 00:18:22,910 --> 00:18:24,806 What do you mean by "toxic mutant?" 388 00:18:24,806 --> 00:18:28,915 AUDIENCE: If you create a mutant ribosome, that 389 00:18:28,915 --> 00:18:32,806 was the only way for the cell to express them, they'd be toxic 390 00:18:32,806 --> 00:18:35,234 and they wouldn't be able to go through translation. 391 00:18:35,234 --> 00:18:36,150 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Yeah. 392 00:18:36,150 --> 00:18:39,240 So maybe the mutant ribosome doesn't work very well, 393 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:43,260 and that ends up being lethal to the cell there. 394 00:18:43,260 --> 00:18:47,250 So can we imagine why that might be 395 00:18:47,250 --> 00:18:49,770 an issue for the types of experiments 396 00:18:49,770 --> 00:18:51,040 we've seen in class? 397 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,370 So if you're thinking about trying 398 00:18:53,370 --> 00:18:57,690 to understand the catalytic mechanism in that function, 399 00:18:57,690 --> 00:19:01,620 there's a likelihood the mutations may dramatically 400 00:19:01,620 --> 00:19:03,180 affect that activity, right? 401 00:19:03,180 --> 00:19:04,770 If you want to put a point mutation 402 00:19:04,770 --> 00:19:07,060 into the peptidyl transferase center, 403 00:19:07,060 --> 00:19:09,060 into the decoding center, that could 404 00:19:09,060 --> 00:19:11,760 be deleterious to your cell, but it 405 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,700 could be very important for your mechanistic study. 406 00:19:14,700 --> 00:19:18,240 So they want to avoid this lethal phenotype. 407 00:19:29,250 --> 00:19:32,810 So what is the complication in terms 408 00:19:32,810 --> 00:19:39,560 of doing this in the presence of wild-type 409 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,790 for some sort of measurement? 410 00:19:42,790 --> 00:19:44,381 AUDIENCE: It gets kind of muddy. 411 00:19:44,381 --> 00:19:45,880 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Gets kind of muddy. 412 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:46,260 Yeah. 413 00:19:46,260 --> 00:19:47,093 What does that mean? 414 00:19:47,093 --> 00:19:50,583 AUDIENCE: You don't have a pure mutant in there, 415 00:19:50,583 --> 00:19:56,134 and they're not significantly different from the wild-type. 416 00:19:56,134 --> 00:19:57,050 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Yeah. 417 00:19:57,050 --> 00:19:59,180 So if you were going to do a standard ribosome 418 00:19:59,180 --> 00:20:00,350 purification-- 419 00:20:00,350 --> 00:20:02,690 because ribosomes have been purified for many years 420 00:20:02,690 --> 00:20:04,265 without an affinity tag-- 421 00:20:04,265 --> 00:20:06,140 you're going to have a mixture of your mutant 422 00:20:06,140 --> 00:20:07,730 and the wild-type. 423 00:20:07,730 --> 00:20:11,630 And so that has a strong likelihood 424 00:20:11,630 --> 00:20:14,300 of being a problem for your analysis, right? 425 00:20:14,300 --> 00:20:16,100 So they gave an example in this paper 426 00:20:16,100 --> 00:20:17,540 where they actually made a mixture 427 00:20:17,540 --> 00:20:20,390 and did some analyses, where you could separate 428 00:20:20,390 --> 00:20:22,290 the wild-type from mutant activity 429 00:20:22,290 --> 00:20:24,840 but that's not necessarily the case. 430 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,350 And so, as pointed out, they're both very large. 431 00:20:28,350 --> 00:20:30,110 They're very similar, right? 432 00:20:30,110 --> 00:20:33,500 There's no good way to separate a ribosome 433 00:20:33,500 --> 00:20:35,060 with a single-point mutation, say, 434 00:20:35,060 --> 00:20:38,100 in the peptidyl transferase center from wild-type. 435 00:20:38,100 --> 00:20:45,110 So let's just imagine you have a mixture that's predominantly 436 00:20:45,110 --> 00:20:48,050 your mutant ribosome but you have some background 437 00:20:48,050 --> 00:20:49,820 contamination of wild-type. 438 00:20:49,820 --> 00:20:50,600 Is that an issue? 439 00:20:58,536 --> 00:21:05,580 Say you want to measure rates of peptide bond formation. 440 00:21:05,580 --> 00:21:07,080 AUDIENCE: It's going to be an issue. 441 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:07,996 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Yeah. 442 00:21:07,996 --> 00:21:09,941 So why is it probably going to be an issue? 443 00:21:09,941 --> 00:21:11,624 AUDIENCE: Because your mutant might 444 00:21:11,624 --> 00:21:15,232 be a lethal function because of your background 445 00:21:15,232 --> 00:21:20,094 and resume the function and [INAUDIBLE] mutant [INAUDIBLE].. 446 00:21:20,094 --> 00:21:21,010 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Yeah. 447 00:21:21,010 --> 00:21:23,010 So imagine you have a mutant ribosome that 448 00:21:23,010 --> 00:21:27,660 has very low activity or none, and you 449 00:21:27,660 --> 00:21:30,030 have some small amount of contaminating wild-type that 450 00:21:30,030 --> 00:21:32,610 has wild-type activity, right? 451 00:21:32,610 --> 00:21:34,200 How do you know-- 452 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,420 I mean you might misinterpret your data, 453 00:21:36,420 --> 00:21:39,330 and what you're seeing is the wild-type and not the mutant. 454 00:21:39,330 --> 00:21:41,880 And this issue is much more broad than the ribosome. 455 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,240 So one of my favorites is the contaminating ATPase. 456 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,810 And maybe you have an enzyme that hydrolyzes ATP, 457 00:21:48,810 --> 00:21:50,640 but maybe you have a small contamination 458 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:54,870 of an enzyme that does a much better job at hydrolyzing ATP 459 00:21:54,870 --> 00:21:56,670 that's in your reaction, right? 460 00:21:56,670 --> 00:21:59,400 So what are you seeing there? 461 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,140 So that's something to keep in mind 462 00:22:01,140 --> 00:22:04,920 in terms of potential contaminations, right? 463 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,900 And so they go through some justification 464 00:22:06,900 --> 00:22:09,270 about why they need to do this method based 465 00:22:09,270 --> 00:22:13,020 on available methods, and all of those available methods 466 00:22:13,020 --> 00:22:14,410 have strengths and weaknesses. 467 00:22:14,410 --> 00:22:16,080 So they talked about using systems 468 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,260 without the wild-type ribosome. 469 00:22:18,260 --> 00:22:20,250 They mentioned in vitro translation, 470 00:22:20,250 --> 00:22:25,950 and I'll just say, in passing, those in vitro systems 471 00:22:25,950 --> 00:22:29,861 have improved a lot since the time of this paper. 472 00:22:29,861 --> 00:22:30,360 OK. 473 00:22:30,360 --> 00:22:33,520 So in terms of their strategy. 474 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:40,010 Let's comment on the various aspects of this strategy. 475 00:22:40,010 --> 00:22:40,510 All right. 476 00:22:40,510 --> 00:22:43,650 So effectively, they want a way to express 477 00:22:43,650 --> 00:22:48,150 the mutant ribosome in vivo in the background of wild-type. 478 00:22:48,150 --> 00:22:50,730 They want a way to separate that ribosome. 479 00:22:50,730 --> 00:22:53,951 And they want to come up with ribosomes that are active. 480 00:22:53,951 --> 00:22:54,450 OK. 481 00:22:54,450 --> 00:22:58,800 So this cartoon basically summarizes their solution 482 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,920 to this problem, and we should work 483 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:06,010 through the various components. 484 00:23:06,010 --> 00:23:09,450 So the first thing is they attached a tag 485 00:23:09,450 --> 00:23:12,570 to either the 23S or the 16S. 486 00:23:12,570 --> 00:23:15,457 And we'll focus today's discussion on the 23S 487 00:23:15,457 --> 00:23:17,540 because that's what they did more characterization 488 00:23:17,540 --> 00:23:18,990 on in the paper. 489 00:23:18,990 --> 00:23:23,000 So how did they decide on the tag and where to place the tag? 490 00:23:27,930 --> 00:23:29,902 AUDIENCE: You don't want the tag somewhere 491 00:23:29,902 --> 00:23:32,367 that's going to interfere with function. 492 00:23:32,367 --> 00:23:34,832 And you don't want the tag itself to be reactive 493 00:23:34,832 --> 00:23:36,311 where it will interfere. 494 00:23:36,311 --> 00:23:41,241 So you need to be out of the way and kind of passive 495 00:23:41,241 --> 00:23:43,127 so it's not interfering with function. 496 00:23:43,127 --> 00:23:44,960 ELIZABETH NOLAN: So that's one point, right? 497 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,660 We don't want this tag to interfere with function. 498 00:23:48,660 --> 00:23:50,970 So that's one aspect. 499 00:23:50,970 --> 00:23:52,752 What's another aspect? 500 00:23:52,752 --> 00:23:54,460 AUDIENCE: You still have to be accessible 501 00:23:54,460 --> 00:23:55,960 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Yeah, the tag needs 502 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,510 to be accessible because something's 503 00:23:57,510 --> 00:24:00,350 going to have to bind this tag, right? 504 00:24:00,350 --> 00:24:04,220 So on the basis of those two criteria, 505 00:24:04,220 --> 00:24:07,350 we can imagine wanting this tag somewhere on the surface, 506 00:24:07,350 --> 00:24:07,850 right? 507 00:24:07,850 --> 00:24:11,030 We don't want it where the 30S and 50S interact. 508 00:24:11,030 --> 00:24:13,820 We don't want it in a position that's critical. 509 00:24:13,820 --> 00:24:16,330 So like maybe if it ended up near where 510 00:24:16,330 --> 00:24:19,350 EFTU first binds or EFG, that would be bad. 511 00:24:19,350 --> 00:24:23,630 So accessible and in a place where it won't interfere. 512 00:24:23,630 --> 00:24:26,510 Beyond that, the ribosome's huge. 513 00:24:26,510 --> 00:24:29,360 So how does one pick where to put this tag? 514 00:24:29,360 --> 00:24:30,650 What did the researchers do? 515 00:24:37,134 --> 00:24:38,550 I'll tell you what they didn't do. 516 00:24:38,550 --> 00:24:40,240 They didn't reinvent the wheel. 517 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,560 So what did they do? 518 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:44,544 AUDIENCE: Lit review. 519 00:24:44,544 --> 00:24:45,460 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Yeah. 520 00:24:45,460 --> 00:24:46,626 They went to the literature. 521 00:24:46,626 --> 00:24:48,606 And what did they find in the literature? 522 00:24:52,378 --> 00:24:54,794 AUDIENCE: Someone had installed a tRNA before or something 523 00:24:54,794 --> 00:24:57,142 and it didn't interfere with the ribosome function. 524 00:24:57,142 --> 00:24:58,100 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Right. 525 00:24:58,100 --> 00:25:00,970 So they took observations that were 526 00:25:00,970 --> 00:25:04,990 made from an independent group for an independent project 527 00:25:04,990 --> 00:25:08,150 but the observations that were useful to them in their design. 528 00:25:08,150 --> 00:25:12,460 So for some reason, this lab stuck a tRNA onto the ribosome 529 00:25:12,460 --> 00:25:16,060 and saw the ribosome was still active and functioning well. 530 00:25:16,060 --> 00:25:18,280 So the decision was, why don't we 531 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,890 use that to place the tag here? 532 00:25:21,890 --> 00:25:25,180 So what about their choice of tag? 533 00:25:25,180 --> 00:25:25,945 What did they use? 534 00:25:30,457 --> 00:25:32,380 A big tag or a little tag? 535 00:25:37,528 --> 00:25:40,590 Any sense of that compared to the size of, say, the 50S? 536 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,190 Take a look at figure one. 537 00:26:07,152 --> 00:26:09,647 AUDIENCE: A small. 538 00:26:09,647 --> 00:26:11,870 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Yeah, right. 539 00:26:11,870 --> 00:26:16,280 So I'd say very small compared to the size 540 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:17,750 of the ribosome, right? 541 00:26:17,750 --> 00:26:20,360 So they decided to take advantage of interaction 542 00:26:20,360 --> 00:26:27,050 between this MS2 coat protein and the MS2 RNA recognition 543 00:26:27,050 --> 00:26:28,610 sequence, right? 544 00:26:28,610 --> 00:26:34,160 So that's one interaction involved here, 545 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,820 so ligand receptor interaction. 546 00:26:35,820 --> 00:26:39,770 So here, this is the depiction from the paper showing 547 00:26:39,770 --> 00:26:48,075 where they incorporated this MS2 stem loop into the 23S rRNA, 548 00:26:48,075 --> 00:26:49,100 here. 549 00:26:49,100 --> 00:26:57,075 And so what does that tag need to bind, going back 550 00:26:57,075 --> 00:26:57,700 to the cartoon? 551 00:27:03,970 --> 00:27:06,290 And what is different about this strategy 552 00:27:06,290 --> 00:27:09,680 from, say, what you've done with nickel and TA chromatography 553 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,050 and His6-tags? 554 00:27:12,050 --> 00:27:13,400 AUDIENCE: It has three things. 555 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:14,970 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Three things, yeah. 556 00:27:14,970 --> 00:27:15,470 Right? 557 00:27:15,470 --> 00:27:20,300 So we have three components, two different interactions, 558 00:27:20,300 --> 00:27:24,170 say, between a ligand and its binding partner, right? 559 00:27:24,170 --> 00:27:30,860 So here, we have the mutant RNA of the ribosome where 560 00:27:30,860 --> 00:27:34,610 there's this MS2 stem loop, OK? 561 00:27:34,610 --> 00:27:39,680 That MS2 stem loop binds to the MS2 coat protein, right? 562 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,560 And then there needs to be some way to pull this out. 563 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,660 And what they chose to do here was 564 00:27:44,660 --> 00:27:46,940 take advantage of a second interaction and one 565 00:27:46,940 --> 00:27:50,330 that's commonly used in chemistry and biology, which 566 00:27:50,330 --> 00:27:53,780 is looking at an interaction between a protein called 567 00:27:53,780 --> 00:28:00,380 glutathione S-transferase and glutathione, here, right? 568 00:28:00,380 --> 00:28:03,330 So effectively, they have a solid support or a resin, 569 00:28:03,330 --> 00:28:05,690 so like the nickel NTA column, but in this case, 570 00:28:05,690 --> 00:28:08,090 it's modified with GSH. 571 00:28:08,090 --> 00:28:11,420 They have to prepare this fusion protein that 572 00:28:11,420 --> 00:28:15,350 is a fusion of GST and MS2, and then they 573 00:28:15,350 --> 00:28:17,060 have the ribosome with the tag. 574 00:28:20,380 --> 00:28:22,960 So why might they have done this with three components 575 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:23,910 rather than two? 576 00:28:28,812 --> 00:28:35,660 AUDIENCE: Since GST/GSH, these are pretty standard affinity 577 00:28:35,660 --> 00:28:39,395 tags, it was probably easier to acquire GSH then 578 00:28:39,395 --> 00:28:40,624 to try to get MS2. 579 00:28:40,624 --> 00:28:41,540 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Yeah. 580 00:28:41,540 --> 00:28:46,420 That's a practical analysis there. 581 00:28:46,420 --> 00:28:51,150 So could they have made a resin with MS2? 582 00:28:51,150 --> 00:28:54,240 Maybe, right? 583 00:28:54,240 --> 00:29:04,190 So how did they go about doing this affinity purification? 584 00:29:04,190 --> 00:29:06,650 What were the steps and why? 585 00:29:12,968 --> 00:29:19,660 So imagine they've done the molecular biology required 586 00:29:19,660 --> 00:29:22,000 to express this tagged ribosome. 587 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,020 They expressed the tagged ribosome in E. coli. 588 00:29:26,020 --> 00:29:26,530 Then what? 589 00:29:26,530 --> 00:29:30,750 How are they going to get this tagged ribosome out? 590 00:29:36,510 --> 00:29:39,870 AUDIENCE: They first purify the crude ribosomes [INAUDIBLE] 591 00:29:39,870 --> 00:29:42,758 including the [INAUDIBLE] and normal ones. 592 00:29:42,758 --> 00:29:47,520 And then they load these crude samples through the column. 593 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:48,620 ELIZABETH NOLAN: OK. 594 00:29:48,620 --> 00:29:51,470 So the crude sample went through the column, right? 595 00:29:51,470 --> 00:29:54,050 What happened before that? 596 00:29:54,050 --> 00:29:57,440 So can you just put the crude ribosome through the column, 597 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,309 if your column is the resin with GSH? 598 00:30:01,309 --> 00:30:03,600 AUDIENCE: You have to preload it with a fusion protein. 599 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:04,670 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Yes. 600 00:30:04,670 --> 00:30:07,334 So what did they preload with the fusion protein? 601 00:30:10,652 --> 00:30:11,600 AUDIENCE: The column. 602 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:12,475 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Yes. 603 00:30:12,475 --> 00:30:14,020 That's what they did, right? 604 00:30:14,020 --> 00:30:17,320 We can imagine just looking at this without further details. 605 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:21,160 There's two possibilities with three components. 606 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:25,120 So they could have, as stated and as what they finally did, 607 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,180 they could add this fusion protein to the column, right? 608 00:30:28,180 --> 00:30:31,150 So the fusion protein binds GSH. 609 00:30:31,150 --> 00:30:36,640 And then you take your crude lysate, crude material 610 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,690 from the E. coli and run that through the column 611 00:30:40,690 --> 00:30:42,880 to trap the ribosomes. 612 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,350 What's the other possibility? 613 00:30:47,312 --> 00:30:49,020 They could have taken this fusion protein 614 00:30:49,020 --> 00:30:51,660 and put it into the crude mixture, 615 00:30:51,660 --> 00:30:52,920 and they talked about that. 616 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,860 So what was one of the complications with this fusion 617 00:30:55,860 --> 00:30:59,055 protein that led them to incubate it with the column? 618 00:31:04,050 --> 00:31:06,370 Was this fusion protein well-behaved? 619 00:31:26,010 --> 00:31:29,182 AUDIENCE: It forms insoluble aggregate. 620 00:31:29,182 --> 00:31:30,390 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Yeah, right? 621 00:31:30,390 --> 00:31:32,480 It gave them some headaches. 622 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,090 It aggregated. 623 00:31:36,090 --> 00:31:38,105 Is that something that can commonly happen? 624 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:50,320 So they likely tried both ways, and they observed this problem 625 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,790 with the fusion protein having aggregation, right? 626 00:31:54,790 --> 00:31:57,670 And they avoided that as being a complication 627 00:31:57,670 --> 00:32:00,430 to the purification by incubating the column 628 00:32:00,430 --> 00:32:03,670 with that fusion protein first. 629 00:32:03,670 --> 00:32:09,100 So after they take their crude sample 630 00:32:09,100 --> 00:32:12,400 and have that bind to the resin in the column, 631 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:18,200 how did they get the ribosomes off the column? 632 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,180 So what are the possibilities? 633 00:32:20,180 --> 00:32:22,420 And what did they end up doing and why? 634 00:32:28,144 --> 00:32:32,190 AUDIENCE: So you could just use an excessive of free MS2 635 00:32:32,190 --> 00:32:34,630 ligands to cause the ribosomes to disassociate 636 00:32:34,630 --> 00:32:35,572 from the column. 637 00:32:35,572 --> 00:32:37,927 Or you could use an excess of the GST 638 00:32:37,927 --> 00:32:40,784 to cause that complex to dissociate from the column. 639 00:32:40,784 --> 00:32:41,700 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Yeah. 640 00:32:41,700 --> 00:32:46,590 So thinking about the latter possibility-- 641 00:32:46,590 --> 00:32:48,660 so what Rebecca has done is identify 642 00:32:48,660 --> 00:32:53,340 the two different ligand receptor interactions, right? 643 00:32:53,340 --> 00:32:57,450 We could disrupt this one between MS2 fusion coat 644 00:32:57,450 --> 00:33:01,710 protein and the ribosome or between GSH and GST. 645 00:33:01,710 --> 00:33:06,690 So in terms of this one here, does it make more sense 646 00:33:06,690 --> 00:33:12,510 to elute with excess protein or excess glutathione, which 647 00:33:12,510 --> 00:33:14,100 is effectively a tripeptide? 648 00:33:17,514 --> 00:33:18,430 AUDIENCE: Glutathione. 649 00:33:18,430 --> 00:33:19,638 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Yeah, right? 650 00:33:19,638 --> 00:33:24,790 So just that much easier to come by a lot of glutathione 651 00:33:24,790 --> 00:33:26,510 than a lot of GSH-- 652 00:33:26,510 --> 00:33:28,150 or sorry, GST. 653 00:33:28,150 --> 00:33:29,750 So which one did they choose? 654 00:33:34,115 --> 00:33:36,690 How did they elute the ribosome off the column? 655 00:33:42,460 --> 00:33:45,700 How long did you each spend on the paper before coming here? 656 00:33:48,538 --> 00:33:49,960 AUDIENCE: GSH. 657 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,120 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Yeah, they used GSH. 658 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,090 So they eluted with excess GSH. 659 00:33:55,090 --> 00:34:00,100 So what does that mean in terms of the purified ribosome? 660 00:34:00,100 --> 00:34:02,110 Is it just the ribosome with the stem loop? 661 00:34:02,110 --> 00:34:03,060 AUDIENCE: They still have the fusion protein. 662 00:34:03,060 --> 00:34:04,018 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Right. 663 00:34:04,018 --> 00:34:06,460 We still have the fusion protein on. 664 00:34:06,460 --> 00:34:10,540 So if you were making this decision at the bench, 665 00:34:10,540 --> 00:34:14,320 you have two different interactions to consider, 666 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,266 what would you choose and why? 667 00:34:17,266 --> 00:34:19,030 Why and I guess, really, why did they 668 00:34:19,030 --> 00:34:22,530 choose to disrupt the interaction between GSH 669 00:34:22,530 --> 00:34:23,030 and GST? 670 00:34:29,740 --> 00:34:36,600 AUDIENCE: Because it's difficult to have enough MS2 than 671 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,042 to purify with glutathione. 672 00:34:38,042 --> 00:34:39,250 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Here, right? 673 00:34:39,250 --> 00:34:44,080 Because if you were going to, say, elute with excess of MS2 674 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,620 stem loop, where would that come from? 675 00:34:47,620 --> 00:34:50,100 Or excess MS2 protein, right? 676 00:34:50,100 --> 00:34:51,935 AUDIENCE: Also, it's actually MS2. 677 00:34:51,935 --> 00:34:52,810 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Yes. 678 00:34:52,810 --> 00:34:55,630 It's not very practical here, right? 679 00:34:55,630 --> 00:34:57,760 At the end of the day, it would be best 680 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,880 to have the ribosome without this fusion protein attached, 681 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,030 but disrupting this interaction isn't very practical. 682 00:35:04,030 --> 00:35:06,610 So it would be quite expensive either way 683 00:35:06,610 --> 00:35:08,787 if you were making a lot of some sort of stem loop. 684 00:35:08,787 --> 00:35:10,870 And then how would you even know you have the stem 685 00:35:10,870 --> 00:35:14,750 loop or the protein here? 686 00:35:14,750 --> 00:35:15,850 OK. 687 00:35:15,850 --> 00:35:18,790 So I'm just curious, for those of you 688 00:35:18,790 --> 00:35:21,670 who have done like nickel NTA chromatography, 689 00:35:21,670 --> 00:35:26,320 do you have a sense of the affinity of the His-tag protein 690 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,030 for the resin? 691 00:35:29,030 --> 00:35:32,425 So what happens as this tied protein goes down the column? 692 00:35:40,165 --> 00:35:40,670 All right. 693 00:35:40,670 --> 00:35:58,286 So you have some column with your resin plus His6 protein. 694 00:36:13,036 --> 00:36:17,482 So was it a strong or weak interaction? 695 00:36:17,482 --> 00:36:18,190 AUDIENCE: Strong. 696 00:36:18,190 --> 00:36:19,110 AUDIENCE: Strong. 697 00:36:19,110 --> 00:36:21,526 ELIZABETH NOLAN: How would you define strong? 698 00:36:21,526 --> 00:36:23,896 Or why do you say it's strong? 699 00:36:23,896 --> 00:36:26,429 AUDIENCE: The chelation. 700 00:36:26,429 --> 00:36:28,720 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Well, you're forming a complex, right? 701 00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:32,330 You're forming-- the His-tag is binding the nickel NTA. 702 00:36:32,330 --> 00:36:36,470 AUDIENCE: The Kd is probably [INAUDIBLE].. 703 00:36:36,470 --> 00:36:37,866 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Is it? 704 00:36:37,866 --> 00:36:39,285 AUDIENCE: I don't know. 705 00:36:39,285 --> 00:36:41,028 AUDIENCE: It is a dynamic process 706 00:36:41,028 --> 00:36:43,069 where they're releasing and binding and releasing 707 00:36:43,069 --> 00:36:44,252 and binding again. 708 00:36:46,850 --> 00:36:47,900 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Yes. 709 00:36:47,900 --> 00:36:49,920 So there's an equilibrium, right? 710 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,080 And we talk about binding to the column 711 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,720 but how tightly is this tagged protein binding? 712 00:36:56,720 --> 00:36:58,850 And is it just binding there and getting stuck? 713 00:36:58,850 --> 00:37:02,360 I mean, it needs to stay in your column, right? 714 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,190 In this case, it's not very strong. 715 00:37:05,190 --> 00:37:07,580 So if you look at reported Kd's for, say, 716 00:37:07,580 --> 00:37:09,890 His-tags to nickel NTA, they're on the order 717 00:37:09,890 --> 00:37:12,470 of one to 10 micromolar. 718 00:37:12,470 --> 00:37:16,175 So orders of magnitude lower affinity 719 00:37:16,175 --> 00:37:17,900 than what you just suggested. 720 00:37:17,900 --> 00:37:21,970 So why does the column work? 721 00:37:21,970 --> 00:37:24,419 AUDIENCE: Because everything else binds worse than that. 722 00:37:24,419 --> 00:37:25,960 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Well, you hope that. 723 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:26,459 You hope. 724 00:37:26,459 --> 00:37:28,312 I mean, sure. 725 00:37:28,312 --> 00:37:30,520 I mean, if you know that histamine-- a protein that's 726 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,720 histamine-rich it's going to stick, but why does it work? 727 00:37:37,750 --> 00:37:41,860 So is it surprising that a micromolar affinity 728 00:37:41,860 --> 00:37:46,300 can allow this to be trapped on the column? 729 00:37:46,300 --> 00:37:49,730 AUDIENCE: Is it because you have six histamines tied down 730 00:37:49,730 --> 00:37:56,080 [INAUDIBLE] 731 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,080 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Pardon? 732 00:38:00,510 --> 00:38:01,030 OK. 733 00:38:01,030 --> 00:38:04,580 It's not the amount of histamines. 734 00:38:04,580 --> 00:38:06,687 What is in your column? 735 00:38:06,687 --> 00:38:08,520 AUDIENCE: You've got a lot of binding sites. 736 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:08,850 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Yeah. 737 00:38:08,850 --> 00:38:09,430 Right. 738 00:38:09,430 --> 00:38:13,220 There's a lot of binding sites in the column. 739 00:38:13,220 --> 00:38:15,410 So you're going to have, as Rebecca said, dynamic. 740 00:38:15,410 --> 00:38:17,212 This is coming on and off the column, 741 00:38:17,212 --> 00:38:18,670 but there's a lot of binding sites. 742 00:38:18,670 --> 00:38:21,520 So if it comes off, it can go back on there. 743 00:38:25,822 --> 00:38:29,215 So what about the GST and GSH? 744 00:38:35,450 --> 00:38:37,925 AUDIENCE: I know it's one of the strongest attractions. 745 00:38:37,925 --> 00:38:38,841 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Yeah. 746 00:38:38,841 --> 00:38:40,860 This is much stronger than nickel NTA 747 00:38:40,860 --> 00:38:42,600 and the His-tag protein. 748 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,766 So orders of magnitude higher affinity here for that. 749 00:38:46,766 --> 00:38:47,536 OK. 750 00:38:47,536 --> 00:38:49,410 But it's something to think about when you're 751 00:38:49,410 --> 00:38:54,384 choosing an affinity purification method there 752 00:38:54,384 --> 00:38:55,800 and to think about what's actually 753 00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:02,330 happening on this column and dynamic process. 754 00:39:02,330 --> 00:39:09,780 So jumping ahead a little bit, they did their experiments 755 00:39:09,780 --> 00:39:13,622 first just tagging the wild-type ribosome, OK? 756 00:39:13,622 --> 00:39:15,330 And that's very important because they're 757 00:39:15,330 --> 00:39:17,790 trying to make a new purification method, 758 00:39:17,790 --> 00:39:19,980 and the first thing that needs to be asked 759 00:39:19,980 --> 00:39:23,940 is does the wild-type ribosome plus the tag 760 00:39:23,940 --> 00:39:28,470 behave the same or differently from the wild-type ribosome 761 00:39:28,470 --> 00:39:30,330 without the tag, OK? 762 00:39:30,330 --> 00:39:32,370 And you want to know that because if the tag is 763 00:39:32,370 --> 00:39:34,702 causing a problem, maybe it's not a good design. 764 00:39:34,702 --> 00:39:36,660 And you don't want to go forward making mutants 765 00:39:36,660 --> 00:39:41,100 with that kind of modification, OK? 766 00:39:41,100 --> 00:39:49,500 So what do they need to do after doing this purification, right? 767 00:39:49,500 --> 00:39:53,910 One is just analyzing the purity of the material 768 00:39:53,910 --> 00:39:55,440 that they've come up with. 769 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,390 And then the other things they did 770 00:39:57,390 --> 00:39:59,940 was look at the subunit integrity, right? 771 00:39:59,940 --> 00:40:03,000 And so something to keep in mind is that the ribosome 772 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,050 has two subunits. 773 00:40:04,050 --> 00:40:07,110 It has many ribosomal proteins. 774 00:40:07,110 --> 00:40:10,770 Does putting the tag on only one subunit work well? 775 00:40:10,770 --> 00:40:14,490 And then, of course, they need to think about the activity. 776 00:40:14,490 --> 00:40:16,770 And so they presented a number of different assays 777 00:40:16,770 --> 00:40:21,060 in this paper ranging from looking at kinetics 778 00:40:21,060 --> 00:40:23,730 of peptide bond formation to looking 779 00:40:23,730 --> 00:40:29,100 at kinetic studies of release with one of the release factors 780 00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:30,280 here. 781 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:34,590 So let's think about the purity analysis. 782 00:40:34,590 --> 00:40:38,310 And what we're going to focus on is there chromatogram, right? 783 00:40:38,310 --> 00:40:43,680 So as we know, they took their column of GSH. 784 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:47,130 They first loaded that column with the GST/MS2 fusion 785 00:40:47,130 --> 00:40:52,080 protein, and then they added their crude sample 786 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,580 and eluted with GSH, right? 787 00:40:54,580 --> 00:40:58,410 And so the data they present for the chromatogram for monitoring 788 00:40:58,410 --> 00:41:02,370 fractions of that column is shown here, OK? 789 00:41:02,370 --> 00:41:04,980 So what does this tell us? 790 00:41:04,980 --> 00:41:08,237 What do we see in this chromatogram? 791 00:41:13,704 --> 00:41:15,636 So what are they monitoring? 792 00:41:21,980 --> 00:41:25,270 So first you want to read your axes, right? 793 00:41:25,270 --> 00:41:27,602 So what are they monitoring. 794 00:41:27,602 --> 00:41:28,974 AUDIENCE: A260. 795 00:41:28,974 --> 00:41:30,640 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Yes, that's the y-axis. 796 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,290 And why A260? 797 00:41:32,290 --> 00:41:34,654 Going back to 20 minutes ago. 798 00:41:34,654 --> 00:41:35,410 AUDIENCE: DNA. 799 00:41:35,410 --> 00:41:36,910 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Nucleotides, right? 800 00:41:36,910 --> 00:41:38,340 Do we want to monitor DNA here? 801 00:41:41,260 --> 00:41:42,730 It will work for DNA. 802 00:41:42,730 --> 00:41:43,614 AUDIENCE: Oh, RNA 803 00:41:43,614 --> 00:41:44,530 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Yeah. 804 00:41:44,530 --> 00:41:48,850 So we have the 23S, 16S rRNA. 805 00:41:48,850 --> 00:41:51,430 So we're looking at A260, which makes sense. 806 00:41:51,430 --> 00:41:54,600 We're trying to purify the ribosome. 807 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,590 Volume, what is this volume? 808 00:42:01,147 --> 00:42:02,356 AUDIENCE: The elution volume. 809 00:42:02,356 --> 00:42:03,313 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Right. 810 00:42:03,313 --> 00:42:04,970 The volume eluted from the column. 811 00:42:04,970 --> 00:42:08,540 So looking at this trace, what do we see? 812 00:42:12,033 --> 00:42:15,526 AUDIENCE: There's a peak [INAUDIBLE] 813 00:42:15,526 --> 00:42:18,530 maybe there's some [INAUDIBLE] introduced later. 814 00:42:18,530 --> 00:42:19,600 ELIZABETH NOLAN: OK. 815 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,610 So you've mixed what you see with an interpretation. 816 00:42:22,610 --> 00:42:25,932 So let's just stick right now to what do we see in the trace? 817 00:42:25,932 --> 00:42:27,640 And then we're going to think about where 818 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:28,810 these things come from. 819 00:42:28,810 --> 00:42:31,630 And that's just something important, 820 00:42:31,630 --> 00:42:33,790 I think, with the problems we give in this course. 821 00:42:33,790 --> 00:42:37,050 First, you want to ask just what does the data say? 822 00:42:37,050 --> 00:42:39,280 And then, how do we interpret this data 823 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,384 based on our knowledge of a system here, OK? 824 00:42:42,384 --> 00:42:44,800 So do you see what I mean, how you mixed what you see here 825 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,050 and a potential interpretation? 826 00:42:47,050 --> 00:42:49,328 So just what do we see? 827 00:42:49,328 --> 00:42:50,462 AUDIENCE: Two peaks. 828 00:42:50,462 --> 00:42:51,670 ELIZABETH NOLAN: So there's-- 829 00:42:51,670 --> 00:42:52,169 Yeah. 830 00:42:52,169 --> 00:42:53,432 Rebecca? 831 00:42:53,432 --> 00:42:56,869 AUDIENCE: Just the large broad peak 832 00:42:56,869 --> 00:43:02,270 that results immediately, and then a smaller separate peak. 833 00:43:02,270 --> 00:43:04,640 ELIZABETH NOLAN: So that's a very nice description. 834 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:09,680 We see a broad peak with high A260 absorbance, 835 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,960 then it elutes immediately. 836 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,890 And then later, there's a peak just after 30 mils that's 837 00:43:15,890 --> 00:43:17,150 sharper, right? 838 00:43:17,150 --> 00:43:18,725 So what are these peaks? 839 00:43:23,405 --> 00:43:24,790 What came off here? 840 00:43:31,552 --> 00:43:33,001 AUDIENCE: Everything else. 841 00:43:33,001 --> 00:43:33,970 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Yeah. 842 00:43:33,970 --> 00:43:35,400 So what's everything else? 843 00:43:40,190 --> 00:43:44,064 AUDIENCE: DNA, [INAUDIBLE]. 844 00:43:44,064 --> 00:43:44,980 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Yeah. 845 00:43:44,980 --> 00:43:47,320 So things that didn't stick to the column, right? 846 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:48,390 They got washed out. 847 00:43:48,390 --> 00:43:51,700 So maybe the native ribosomes, right? 848 00:43:51,700 --> 00:43:54,700 Maybe there's DNA in there, tRNAs. 849 00:43:54,700 --> 00:43:57,940 Could there be EFTU with tRNA bound, right? 850 00:43:57,940 --> 00:44:03,100 And there are things we're not seeing, right? 851 00:44:03,100 --> 00:44:06,250 So what do we think about the second peak? 852 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,230 AUDIENCE: It's much less broad. 853 00:44:13,230 --> 00:44:15,000 It's pretty sharp, so that will tell you 854 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,835 that it's likely only one thing that 855 00:44:18,835 --> 00:44:20,621 has bound to the column a lot. 856 00:44:20,621 --> 00:44:22,245 So that would probably be your His-tag. 857 00:44:22,245 --> 00:44:23,924 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Is this a His-tag here? 858 00:44:23,924 --> 00:44:26,090 I know we're going back and forth because you're all 859 00:44:26,090 --> 00:44:27,256 more familiar with His-tags. 860 00:44:27,256 --> 00:44:28,912 AUDIENCE: Your affinity tag. 861 00:44:28,912 --> 00:44:29,870 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Right. 862 00:44:29,870 --> 00:44:32,990 So this is likely what was tagged, right? 863 00:44:32,990 --> 00:44:36,860 And with GSH elution, we disrupted 864 00:44:36,860 --> 00:44:38,600 the binding interaction with GST, 865 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,190 and it came off the column. 866 00:44:40,190 --> 00:44:44,240 Do we know that it's only one thing? 867 00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:45,560 No. 868 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,570 At this stage, we don't, right? 869 00:44:47,570 --> 00:44:50,515 So what are possibilities? 870 00:44:50,515 --> 00:44:52,850 What could this be? 871 00:44:52,850 --> 00:44:54,550 So we have the tag on the 50S. 872 00:45:04,142 --> 00:45:06,100 Because the only-- I mean, it's coming off here 873 00:45:06,100 --> 00:45:09,790 just based on the amount of GSH required to push it off 874 00:45:09,790 --> 00:45:10,856 the column there. 875 00:45:10,856 --> 00:45:13,231 AUDIENCE: It could be a mixture of intact ribosome, which 876 00:45:13,231 --> 00:45:14,832 is the cell that gets tagged. 877 00:45:14,832 --> 00:45:15,790 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Right. 878 00:45:15,790 --> 00:45:16,290 Yeah. 879 00:45:16,290 --> 00:45:19,090 So we don't know right now in terms of the whole composition 880 00:45:19,090 --> 00:45:20,740 of this peak, right? 881 00:45:20,740 --> 00:45:24,460 It could be intact 70S because 30S came down. 882 00:45:24,460 --> 00:45:26,970 It could be 50S alone. 883 00:45:26,970 --> 00:45:28,660 And there's always the possibility 884 00:45:28,660 --> 00:45:31,120 of some other contaminant that just for whatever reason 885 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,830 came off the column then there. 886 00:45:33,830 --> 00:45:34,880 OK. 887 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,000 Would you be excited by this chromatogram 888 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,580 if you were the person at the bench doing this work? 889 00:45:44,283 --> 00:45:44,783 Yeah. 890 00:45:44,783 --> 00:45:47,030 You'd be super excited, right? 891 00:45:47,030 --> 00:45:50,320 So it looks quite good. 892 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,090 So of course, there needs to be some more analyses done. 893 00:45:53,090 --> 00:45:55,820 And one analysis we're not going to go into in detail 894 00:45:55,820 --> 00:45:59,630 but they needed to ask, is this really all tagged ribosome 895 00:45:59,630 --> 00:46:02,180 or is there also some contamination of wild-type? 896 00:46:02,180 --> 00:46:06,530 And so they designed some analysis using a technique 897 00:46:06,530 --> 00:46:09,380 called primary extension to look at that there. 898 00:46:09,380 --> 00:46:12,080 And what they saw is that they primarily 899 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,480 had the tagged ribosome, which was good news. 900 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,780 So getting at the question in terms of what's actually 901 00:46:17,780 --> 00:46:21,050 in this peak, they looked at effectively, 902 00:46:21,050 --> 00:46:24,095 say, subunit integrity. 903 00:46:24,095 --> 00:46:25,880 And how did they do this? 904 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,492 They used centrifugation. 905 00:46:28,492 --> 00:46:31,640 And does anyone recall what type of centrifugation they used? 906 00:46:36,262 --> 00:46:37,720 AUDIENCE: Sucrose density gradient. 907 00:46:37,720 --> 00:46:38,595 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Yes. 908 00:46:38,595 --> 00:46:41,120 So they used a sucrose gradient, right? 909 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,696 And how does that let you do separation? 910 00:46:43,696 --> 00:46:44,602 AUDIENCE: By density. 911 00:46:44,602 --> 00:46:46,060 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Right, by density. 912 00:46:46,060 --> 00:46:50,090 And we have the different subunits of different sizes, 913 00:46:50,090 --> 00:46:52,060 different density there, right? 914 00:46:52,060 --> 00:46:56,780 So this is the data they show. 915 00:46:56,780 --> 00:47:00,490 And so, again, we want to look at these data and ask 916 00:47:00,490 --> 00:47:03,520 what do we see and what does that tell us, right? 917 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:07,120 So these are the results from the sucrose gradient 918 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:08,470 centrifugation. 919 00:47:08,470 --> 00:47:12,920 And they looked at untied wild-type ribosomes, 920 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,810 so isolated 70S and then the tied ribosome. 921 00:47:16,810 --> 00:47:20,680 So what was the key part of the sample preparation here? 922 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,090 How did they prepare these samples 923 00:47:25,090 --> 00:47:27,820 to be able to look at the subunits individually? 924 00:47:33,199 --> 00:47:34,990 Because the question they're getting at is, 925 00:47:34,990 --> 00:47:39,520 what is the ratio of the 50S to the 30S in the sample that 926 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,912 was purified from the column? 927 00:47:42,912 --> 00:47:47,374 AUDIENCE: They dialyzed using magnesium buffer. 928 00:47:47,374 --> 00:47:48,290 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Yeah. 929 00:47:48,290 --> 00:47:50,690 So what was it about the magnesium in the buffer? 930 00:47:54,022 --> 00:47:55,926 AUDIENCE: It causes disassociation 931 00:47:55,926 --> 00:47:57,840 between the 30S and the 50S. 932 00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:58,862 ELIZABETH NOLAN: So why? 933 00:47:58,862 --> 00:48:00,570 Maybe you said it, and I didn't hear you. 934 00:48:00,570 --> 00:48:03,969 What was it about the buffer that allowed this? 935 00:48:03,969 --> 00:48:07,079 AUDIENCE: Is it the positive charge? 936 00:48:07,079 --> 00:48:09,495 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Well, it is the magnesium, but was it low 937 00:48:09,495 --> 00:48:10,560 or high magnesium buffer? 938 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:11,310 AUDIENCE: Oh, low. 939 00:48:11,310 --> 00:48:12,630 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Low, Right? 940 00:48:12,630 --> 00:48:15,960 So we learned that magnesium is important for interactions 941 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,530 between these subunits, right? 942 00:48:17,530 --> 00:48:20,430 And you've seen some of the experimental details 943 00:48:20,430 --> 00:48:22,800 in the paper for recitation two and three, 944 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,530 they used different concentrations of magnesium. 945 00:48:25,530 --> 00:48:28,140 In this case, they want to separate the two subunits. 946 00:48:28,140 --> 00:48:32,340 So they basically used a low magnesium buffer 947 00:48:32,340 --> 00:48:36,570 to allow them to dissociate. 948 00:48:36,570 --> 00:48:39,720 So in these data, what are we looking at? 949 00:48:39,720 --> 00:48:41,670 The axes aren't shown, but what are they? 950 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:47,715 AUDIENCE: I have a question. 951 00:48:47,715 --> 00:48:50,046 Why not just a no-magnesium buffer? 952 00:48:55,730 --> 00:48:58,950 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Could that be bad for the sample? 953 00:48:58,950 --> 00:49:01,629 How low is the magnesium in the buffer? 954 00:49:01,629 --> 00:49:02,670 AUDIENCE: One millimolar. 955 00:49:02,670 --> 00:49:04,260 ELIZABETH NOLAN: One millimolar. 956 00:49:04,260 --> 00:49:08,060 So where else might the magnesium go? 957 00:49:08,060 --> 00:49:10,353 Is it only important for this interaction? 958 00:49:20,644 --> 00:49:22,185 AUDIENCE: I mean I guess it's useful. 959 00:49:22,185 --> 00:49:23,976 It can be used in a lot of different places 960 00:49:23,976 --> 00:49:25,197 actually in the cell. 961 00:49:25,197 --> 00:49:26,030 ELIZABETH NOLAN: OK. 962 00:49:26,030 --> 00:49:27,540 But we don't have the cell here. 963 00:49:27,540 --> 00:49:29,174 We have the purified ribosome. 964 00:49:29,174 --> 00:49:30,590 AUDIENCE: Is it possible that it's 965 00:49:30,590 --> 00:49:32,820 holding together the actual conformation 966 00:49:32,820 --> 00:49:35,032 of the 50S and the 30S? 967 00:49:35,032 --> 00:49:36,240 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Yeah, right. 968 00:49:36,240 --> 00:49:37,375 I mean, that may-- 969 00:49:37,375 --> 00:49:39,000 I actually don't know what would happen 970 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,460 if this goes into a no-magnesium buffer, right? 971 00:49:41,460 --> 00:49:44,490 But I think there's about a dozen contacts where 972 00:49:44,490 --> 00:49:46,614 magnesium is used between the two subunits. 973 00:49:46,614 --> 00:49:48,030 And you can imagine there's plenty 974 00:49:48,030 --> 00:49:50,190 of interactions of magnesium or cations 975 00:49:50,190 --> 00:49:52,121 in other places of each subunit. 976 00:49:52,121 --> 00:49:54,620 Joanne, do you happen to know what happens if the ribosome-- 977 00:49:54,620 --> 00:49:56,335 I think you get a big unfolded mess. 978 00:49:56,335 --> 00:49:58,793 JOANNE STUBBE: It would be hard to get rid of the magnesium 979 00:49:58,793 --> 00:50:01,477 because it has key binding sites along the place 980 00:50:01,477 --> 00:50:05,330 where it comes off and goes back on. 981 00:50:05,330 --> 00:50:06,630 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Yeah. 982 00:50:06,630 --> 00:50:08,100 So what are the axes? 983 00:50:08,100 --> 00:50:10,100 If we were to have them, what are we looking at? 984 00:50:13,022 --> 00:50:15,424 AUDIENCE: I think the gradient. 985 00:50:15,424 --> 00:50:16,340 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Yeah. 986 00:50:16,340 --> 00:50:16,839 Right. 987 00:50:16,839 --> 00:50:19,550 So we have basically, yeah, the percent sucrose, 988 00:50:19,550 --> 00:50:22,730 say, the gradient-- or the density, right? 989 00:50:22,730 --> 00:50:25,670 And how are we seeing these peaks? 990 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:40,700 AUDIENCE: We see two peaks and the upper graph 991 00:50:40,700 --> 00:50:46,250 we see the peaks are more similar in size. 992 00:50:46,250 --> 00:50:51,150 And then in the second part we see-- well, we see two peaks 993 00:50:51,150 --> 00:50:53,600 but one peak has a shift over. 994 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,640 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Right. 995 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,470 So just backing up. 996 00:50:57,470 --> 00:50:59,725 That's all certainly the case. 997 00:50:59,725 --> 00:51:02,060 How are we detecting these peaks? 998 00:51:02,060 --> 00:51:03,140 What's the readout? 999 00:51:03,140 --> 00:51:07,200 So we have some sucrose gradient here. 1000 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,057 How do we see the peaks? 1001 00:51:09,057 --> 00:51:10,370 AUDIENCE: PUB. 1002 00:51:10,370 --> 00:51:12,400 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Well, what, more specifically? 1003 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:13,710 AUDIENCE: Oh, A280. 1004 00:51:13,710 --> 00:51:14,626 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Yeah. 1005 00:51:14,626 --> 00:51:17,660 So here, they're using the absorbance at 280, right? 1006 00:51:17,660 --> 00:51:23,611 So a little different than the chromatogram, but that's OK, 1007 00:51:23,611 --> 00:51:24,110 right? 1008 00:51:24,110 --> 00:51:28,025 There's 280 absorbance here and maybe their instrument for this 1009 00:51:28,025 --> 00:51:29,820 didn't allow 260. 1010 00:51:29,820 --> 00:51:36,660 So as we just heard, if we look at the untagged ribosome, 1011 00:51:36,660 --> 00:51:40,380 we see that there's two peaks, and they're nicely labeled. 1012 00:51:40,380 --> 00:51:43,340 It's nicely labeled with the 30S here 1013 00:51:43,340 --> 00:51:49,021 in terms of percent sucrose in the gradient and 50S here, 1014 00:51:49,021 --> 00:51:49,520 right? 1015 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:53,360 And so we see kind of in our standard control, 1016 00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,180 the peak for the 30S is smaller than the 50S, 1017 00:51:56,180 --> 00:51:57,710 and this is where they're placed. 1018 00:51:57,710 --> 00:52:02,120 And so what we want to do is compare this data to the data 1019 00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,020 here for the tagged ribosome. 1020 00:52:04,020 --> 00:52:04,520 OK. 1021 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,670 So what are the two major observations, 1022 00:52:07,670 --> 00:52:09,237 two major differences? 1023 00:52:12,646 --> 00:52:14,594 Rebecca. 1024 00:52:14,594 --> 00:52:18,003 AUDIENCE: The second one's enriched for the proteasome, 1025 00:52:18,003 --> 00:52:20,940 there's relatively higher concentration of 50S. 1026 00:52:20,940 --> 00:52:22,230 ELIZABETH NOLAN: OK and-- 1027 00:52:22,230 --> 00:52:24,376 AUDIENCE: And it's [INAUDIBLE]. 1028 00:52:24,376 --> 00:52:25,250 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Yes. 1029 00:52:25,250 --> 00:52:27,480 So or another way to say that, maybe, it's 1030 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,570 depleted in the 30S, right? 1031 00:52:30,570 --> 00:52:33,870 But I think you're coming across the same observation, right? 1032 00:52:33,870 --> 00:52:39,559 So first we see there is a peak corresponding to the 30S 1033 00:52:39,559 --> 00:52:41,100 and then there's this peak here which 1034 00:52:41,100 --> 00:52:42,780 is shifted relative to what we saw 1035 00:52:42,780 --> 00:52:45,240 for the 50S and the untagged ribosome. 1036 00:52:45,240 --> 00:52:47,440 And the peak heights or peak areas, 1037 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,880 however you want to analyze it, that ratio 1038 00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,170 is very different than what we see up here. 1039 00:52:53,170 --> 00:52:56,990 So why is this shifted and why is there more 50S? 1040 00:53:00,670 --> 00:53:02,090 AUDIENCE: Can I ask a question? 1041 00:53:02,090 --> 00:53:05,990 So can you definitively say that it's enriched or depleted 1042 00:53:05,990 --> 00:53:08,050 in 30S? 1043 00:53:08,050 --> 00:53:10,690 I don't know a lot about biochemistry in general, 1044 00:53:10,690 --> 00:53:17,010 but can you say that possibly the multiple histamine-- 1045 00:53:17,010 --> 00:53:18,686 oh, it's not histamine. 1046 00:53:21,711 --> 00:53:24,470 AUDIENCE: Is it just tagged because of the shift. 1047 00:53:24,470 --> 00:53:26,750 I mean, it seems like such a small derivation. 1048 00:53:26,750 --> 00:53:27,583 ELIZABETH NOLAN: OK. 1049 00:53:27,583 --> 00:53:30,200 So what else is there in the sample? 1050 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,400 So we have that stem loop tag, but based on how they eluted 1051 00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,410 this, what else is there? 1052 00:53:35,410 --> 00:53:36,310 AUDIENCE: The fusion. 1053 00:53:36,310 --> 00:53:38,250 ELIZABETH NOLAN: The fusion protein, right? 1054 00:53:38,250 --> 00:53:40,000 So then the question is-- and this is just 1055 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,416 getting to the point of needing to look at all the details 1056 00:53:42,416 --> 00:53:45,070 in terms of what's done in someone's experiment to try 1057 00:53:45,070 --> 00:53:47,470 to figure out what's happening. 1058 00:53:47,470 --> 00:53:51,730 Is the MS2 coat protein alone enough to cause a shift? 1059 00:53:54,250 --> 00:53:55,810 So what else might that be? 1060 00:54:02,572 --> 00:54:06,436 AUDIENCE: Could it be the GST? 1061 00:54:06,436 --> 00:54:09,680 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Well, you know that the GST/MS2 is there 1062 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:14,030 because it was GSH that was used to elute that whole thing. 1063 00:54:14,030 --> 00:54:18,890 So the ribosome and the GST/MS2 fusion. 1064 00:54:18,890 --> 00:54:22,130 So I guess the question is, just thinking what is 1065 00:54:22,130 --> 00:54:23,570 the size of the fusion protein? 1066 00:54:26,270 --> 00:54:28,670 And then how does that compare to the ribosome? 1067 00:54:28,670 --> 00:54:30,710 And what does that mean in terms of a shift 1068 00:54:30,710 --> 00:54:32,750 to a different percent sucrose? 1069 00:54:38,306 --> 00:54:41,380 So just what are possibilities? 1070 00:54:41,380 --> 00:54:45,220 We learned that the fusion protein had some problems, 1071 00:54:45,220 --> 00:54:47,110 that it liked to aggregate. 1072 00:54:47,110 --> 00:54:49,180 Is it possible that contributes? 1073 00:54:49,180 --> 00:54:53,700 Is it possible that not all of the 70S was dissociated, right? 1074 00:54:53,700 --> 00:54:56,680 So there is not a label for where the 70S would come here. 1075 00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,980 These are just things to think about when looking at the data 1076 00:54:59,980 --> 00:55:04,060 here and to look at their explanation. 1077 00:55:04,060 --> 00:55:06,430 So is this good news or bad news? 1078 00:55:06,430 --> 00:55:08,524 And is there a solution? 1079 00:55:08,524 --> 00:55:09,289 Yeah? 1080 00:55:09,289 --> 00:55:09,955 AUDIENCE: Sorry. 1081 00:55:09,955 --> 00:55:10,909 I had a question. 1082 00:55:10,909 --> 00:55:14,725 Since they're monitoring the A280, so the protein 1083 00:55:14,725 --> 00:55:21,005 absorption, since the 50S would have the fusion 1084 00:55:21,005 --> 00:55:22,380 protein associated with it still, 1085 00:55:22,380 --> 00:55:25,170 wouldn't that affect the A280? 1086 00:55:25,170 --> 00:55:27,120 Can we definitively say that it's 1087 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,550 actually depleted in the 30S or is maybe 1088 00:55:29,550 --> 00:55:33,430 just the absorbance of the 50S higher for the tagged protein 1089 00:55:33,430 --> 00:55:34,347 because of the fusion? 1090 00:55:34,347 --> 00:55:35,263 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Yeah. 1091 00:55:35,263 --> 00:55:36,660 So that's a good point, right? 1092 00:55:36,660 --> 00:55:40,230 The fusion protein is going to have some absorbance defined 1093 00:55:40,230 --> 00:55:42,050 by its extinction coefficient. 1094 00:55:42,050 --> 00:55:45,030 And then the question is, what is that in magnitude? 1095 00:55:45,030 --> 00:55:47,520 And how does that compare to, say, the total extinction 1096 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,860 coefficient of the 50S, right? 1097 00:55:49,860 --> 00:55:54,012 So there are a number of ribosomal proteins, 20 to 30, 1098 00:55:54,012 --> 00:55:55,470 and we don't know how many of those 1099 00:55:55,470 --> 00:56:00,110 got through this purification, but they're there. 1100 00:56:00,110 --> 00:56:02,610 So that's how I would go about analyzing that. 1101 00:56:02,610 --> 00:56:05,430 I actually don't know what the relative absorbance 1102 00:56:05,430 --> 00:56:11,330 of the fusion protein to the intact 50S ribosome is 1103 00:56:11,330 --> 00:56:15,088 but that's a caveat to consider and could contribute. 1104 00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:21,547 So what do we think? 1105 00:56:21,547 --> 00:56:23,130 What are you going to do for an assay? 1106 00:56:36,740 --> 00:56:39,490 If we were to set these ribosomes up, the wild type 1107 00:56:39,490 --> 00:56:42,400 and the mutant one, and, let's say, do a peptide bond 1108 00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:46,770 formation reaction, like what they presented in the paper 1109 00:56:46,770 --> 00:56:48,680 as is, what would you expect? 1110 00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,160 Are you going to see the same activity or less activity? 1111 00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:59,230 Working under the model that we don't have enough 30S here 1112 00:56:59,230 --> 00:57:04,550 to fully form 70S ribosomes. 1113 00:57:04,550 --> 00:57:07,100 AUDIENCE: You'd expect the 30S to act 1114 00:57:07,100 --> 00:57:09,970 like the limiting agent in peptide bond formation 1115 00:57:09,970 --> 00:57:11,240 where they come together. 1116 00:57:11,240 --> 00:57:15,790 And you can only make as much ribosome as you have 30S. 1117 00:57:15,790 --> 00:57:19,222 So you would get less peptide bond formation. 1118 00:57:19,222 --> 00:57:20,180 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Right. 1119 00:57:20,180 --> 00:57:23,240 So you'd have fewer 70S assembled ribosomes 1120 00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,141 that can do translation. 1121 00:57:25,141 --> 00:57:25,640 Right. 1122 00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,501 So what was their solution to this problem? 1123 00:57:31,349 --> 00:57:33,190 Or if you don't remember, what would you do? 1124 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,770 What happens if we don't have enough of a given component? 1125 00:57:53,770 --> 00:57:57,890 We'll finish on this note. 1126 00:57:57,890 --> 00:58:00,160 AUDIENCE: You just add more of the 30S. 1127 00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,290 ELIZABETH NOLAN: Yeah, right? 1128 00:58:02,290 --> 00:58:05,990 So you can imagine adding in more 30s there. 1129 00:58:05,990 --> 00:58:09,100 We know how to purify wild-type ribosomes, 1130 00:58:09,100 --> 00:58:11,140 can dissociate the subunits and imagine 1131 00:58:11,140 --> 00:58:15,460 purifying 30S and adding that into the reaction to have 1132 00:58:15,460 --> 00:58:17,920 the correct stochiometry there. 1133 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:21,340 So that's exactly what they did in their assays. 1134 00:58:21,340 --> 00:58:24,580 And so I encourage you to take a look at the assays 1135 00:58:24,580 --> 00:58:27,040 they did for peptide bond formation 1136 00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,500 and for peptide release. 1137 00:58:29,500 --> 00:58:33,610 And in the posted notes, there's a schematic overview 1138 00:58:33,610 --> 00:58:36,310 of everything that was done to get the components 1139 00:58:36,310 --> 00:58:37,330 of their syringes. 1140 00:58:37,330 --> 00:58:39,070 So these were quench flow experiments, 1141 00:58:39,070 --> 00:58:41,470 like what you talked about in recitation in prior weeks 1142 00:58:41,470 --> 00:58:43,570 and we talked about with EFP. 1143 00:58:43,570 --> 00:58:46,630 And there's also an example where they used puromycin, 1144 00:58:46,630 --> 00:58:51,820 like what we saw with EFP, in the experimental setup, so 1145 00:58:51,820 --> 00:58:55,710 that antibiotic that causes change termination there. 1146 00:58:55,710 --> 00:58:58,990 And so what they found is that these tagged ribosomes really 1147 00:58:58,990 --> 00:59:04,190 work quite well in terms of the kinetic comparison there. 1148 00:59:04,190 --> 00:59:06,040 And they moved on with this methodology 1149 00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,910 to use it to purify new ribosomes for other studies. 1150 00:59:08,910 --> 00:59:12,370 So it turned out to be a useful method for their lab, 1151 00:59:12,370 --> 00:59:15,070 and I would argue, what would be a useful method for other labs, 1152 00:59:15,070 --> 00:59:19,570 based on the information they presented in their paper there. 1153 00:59:19,570 --> 00:59:20,740 OK? 1154 00:59:20,740 --> 00:59:24,520 So you're off the hook, and I'll see you in recitation 1155 00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:26,670 next week.